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Sure, if you want to ban drinking in the workplace I can understand (but don't agree) — it can be a liability. There will be always be a slight risk there, and
by accountyaccount 9y ago
Sure, if you want to ban drinking in the workplace I can understand (but don't agree) — it can be a liability. There will be always be a slight risk there, and it's hard to trust everyone in a larger sized company.
If my employer tried to enforce a rule as puritanical as "no swearing" my response would be "fuck you."
- WillPostForFood 9y agoThe value of some self control at work isn't puritanical. Replace "fuck you" with "nice ass" or "Have you met Jesus." You don't need to say it, people don't need to hear it, and it can make work more pleasant.
- accountyaccount 9y agoAlright, let's consider that I'd generally not recommend saying "fuck you" to a colleague. What if I say "that's fucking weird" or "that's bullshit" — not really comparable to sexual harassment or pushing religion.
- kafkaesq 9y agoI agree: "Sorry, this is bullshit" is vastly, vastly preferable. Has the advantage of depersonalizing the issue and avoiding the (completely unnecessary) sexual/aggressive overtones -- while still sending an unequivocally clear message (that you also wouldn't necessarily mind being quoted for in the press or in a book, some day).
- chillwaves 9y agoBut curse words offend my god. By not being tolerant to my intolerance, you are the one who is intolerant!
- cirgue 9y agoYou are 100% correct. However, that is something that should be enforced by the norms and values of the human beings on the team, not HR. Cursing isn't bad, it's that cursing can be used to express sentiments and intentions that are bad. If you police words and then say 'ok, my job here is done', you have succeeded in removing a symptom and done nothing to address the cause. Moreover, this gives shitty people a policy wall to hide behind.
- kafkaesq 9y agoIf my employer tried to enforce a rule as puritanical as "no swearing" my response would be "fuck you." Provided you have the FY money sitting in your bank account to be able to go that route, that is.
- btian 9y agoI don't have fuck you money, but I can easily find another job in Silicon Valley
- kafkaesq 9y agoI guess you'll have to lie to your prospective employers about "why you left your last job", then. Not wanting to put with inane policies is one thing. But very few companies would want to hire someone who resorts that quickly to that kind of aggression in the workplace.
- allover 9y ago> I guess you'll have to lie to your prospective employers about "why you left your last job", then Who's ever completely honest about why they left a previous company anyway? I left a previous position largely because my boss was a psychopath. But I certainly didn't mention that during interviews.
- kafkaesq 9y agoI left a previous position largely because my boss was a psychopath. It's one thing to "simplify", and gloss over the details of what other people did. It's quite another to invert the basic nature of something that you did.
- allover 9y agoYeah agree, but pretty much anything can be "simplified", short of being fired. The "company got acquired, added 'no swear' policies & removed perks' so I said fuck that and left", can be simplified to something vague like "the company got acquired and changed direction (you don't even need to mention culture, but you can), I'm looking for something more like what you're doing here at 'New Company' ... ".