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If you describe how to compile Python to JS, that's technically interesting. When it's framed as "Remove JS from the world to make it better", that invites a l

If you describe how to compile Python to JS, that's technically interesting. When it's framed as "Remove JS from the world to make it better", that invites a lot of drama.

rocky1138 9y ago
It also is the exact opposite of what's in the article. If people do this, there will be more JavaScript not less. This is nothing more than a thinly veiled advertisement.
- j_jochem 9y ago
  And I only clicked because I actually like JavaScript and the title made me angry.
  - dvlsg 9y ago
    I'm sure it didn't help that the Javascript examples were written poorly on purpose.
cphoover 9y ago
Couldn't agree more. Obnoxious biased introduction: "The web is the greatest application delivery platform on Earth, and frankly it’s a stain on our profession that you need to know five different programming languages and three different frameworks if you want to make it do anything. Really, all you should need is to be able to code - ideally, in a friendly, readable language that’s easy to learn and isn’t full of unpleasant surprises." As someone who does fullstack dev in JavaScript I find the comment totally without basis.
- eberkund 9y ago
  What are these 5 programming languages? I assume that includes HTML, CSS, JavaScript and maybe some backend language. Still, that's only 4. Also even in desktop and mobile application development there is a separate markup language for putting together the UI. For example XAML for Windows devs and XML for Android.
  - actsasbuffoon 9y ago
    Probably a query language such as SQL.
    - Xoros 9y ago
      So in the end you'll get : html, css, python and sql :-D Much better. Oh wait... (not criticizing your own comment of course)
      - eberkund 9y ago
        Well you could still need some JS for the frontend but once we're adding a database too is it really any different from whichever Desktop GUI framework? The only difference is I guess that CSS and HTML are separate whereas this isn't as common for Desktop applications.
- WalterSear 9y ago
  The author clearly feels that five is not enough, and that adding Python will give us the six languages that we need.
- flavio81 9y ago
  > "The web is the greatest application delivery platform on Earth, and frankly it’s a stain on our profession that you need to know five different programming languages (...) Really, all you should need is to be able to code." The guy who wrote this is sadly one in a new breed of so-called "coders" that don't really love the art of programming.
- chaostheory 9y ago
  Technically with the advent of Nodejs, you can just use one language and only use 1 or 2 frameworks for a full responsive web app. You just have to use Javascript for all of it
meredydd 9y ago
It's a means to an end. You can choose - if you think the thicket of Javascript frameworks is strangling accessibility of the Web platform, can either whinge about it on the Internet all day or try to build something better.
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If you describe how to compile Python to JS, that's technically interesting. When it's framed as "Remove JS from the world to make it better", that invites a lot of drama.

rocky1138 9y ago

It also is the exact opposite of what's in the article. If people do this, there will be more JavaScript not less. This is nothing more than a thinly veiled advertisement.

j_jochem 9y ago
And I only clicked because I actually like JavaScript and the title made me angry.
- dvlsg 9y ago
  I'm sure it didn't help that the Javascript examples were written poorly on purpose.

cphoover 9y ago

Couldn't agree more. Obnoxious biased introduction: "The web is the greatest application delivery platform on Earth, and frankly it’s a stain on our profession that you need to know five different programming languages and three different frameworks if you want to make it do anything. Really, all you should need is to be able to code - ideally, in a friendly, readable language that’s easy to learn and isn’t full of unpleasant surprises." As someone who does fullstack dev in JavaScript I find the comment totally without basis.

eberkund 9y ago
What are these 5 programming languages? I assume that includes HTML, CSS, JavaScript and maybe some backend language. Still, that's only 4. Also even in desktop and mobile application development there is a separate markup language for putting together the UI. For example XAML for Windows devs and XML for Android.
- actsasbuffoon 9y ago
  Probably a query language such as SQL.
  - Xoros 9y ago
    So in the end you'll get : html, css, python and sql :-D Much better. Oh wait... (not criticizing your own comment of course)
    - eberkund 9y ago
      Well you could still need some JS for the frontend but once we're adding a database too is it really any different from whichever Desktop GUI framework? The only difference is I guess that CSS and HTML are separate whereas this isn't as common for Desktop applications.
WalterSear 9y ago
The author clearly feels that five is not enough, and that adding Python will give us the six languages that we need.
flavio81 9y ago
> "The web is the greatest application delivery platform on Earth, and frankly it’s a stain on our profession that you need to know five different programming languages (...) Really, all you should need is to be able to code." The guy who wrote this is sadly one in a new breed of so-called "coders" that don't really love the art of programming.
chaostheory 9y ago
Technically with the advent of Nodejs, you can just use one language and only use 1 or 2 frameworks for a full responsive web app. You just have to use Javascript for all of it

meredydd 9y ago

It's a means to an end. You can choose - if you think the thicket of Javascript frameworks is strangling accessibility of the Web platform, can either whinge about it on the Internet all day or try to build something better.

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