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Let's face it: systemd is a bad design... The solution I found: FreeBSD and OpenBSD !

• fao_ 9y ago
  You might like suckless.org
• digi_owl 9y ago
  There are Linux distros that still have not succumbed.
  • dijit 9y ago
    None that I would use in production (as a sysadmin)
    • na85 9y ago
      Slackware ?
    • _ZeD_ 9y ago
      Not even a slackware?
      • teksimian 9y ago
        maybe if they had package dependencies sorted out. they didnt last time i checked.
    • digi_owl 9y ago
      Could have sworn that i have seen companies opt for Gentoo in production, because they could tailor the end result specifically to their needs...
    • mobilethrow 9y ago
      I've been toying with GuixSD recently and really love the immutable system configurations. There are some caveats, but I would not mind using it on production servers. Sadly I haven't been able to convince my colleagues yet.
  • teksimian 9y ago
    i believe there's a debian fork around that doesnt have systemd... https://devuan.org/ https://devuan.org/
• Mic92 9y ago
  But does not the FreeBSD project even more focus on memory unsafe languages (C) and is more monolithic then Linux distribution in general (userspace must match kernel).
  • jlg23 9y ago
    I assume the comment you are responding to was about the init-system and in extension to the much more straight forward design and implementation of the overall system. FreeBSD is, like all(?) other Unices written in C, as is most of the userland. > userspace must match kernel Just as far as it is true for Linux. If the interfaces don't change, the userspace tools will happily talk with any kernel. In now 19 years of FreeBSD usage on all my servers and on my laptop I ran into problems caused by a mismatch kernel<->userspace maybe 3 times. OTOH, the comparison is unfair with BSD-boxes reaching uptimes > 1 year easily.
  • talideon 9y ago
    No more so than a Linux distro does. With the latter, you're referring to base. FreeBSD isn't really any more monolithic than your average distro in that regard though; it's just that with some services, the userland, and the like it (historically) made sense to maintain with particular stable versions of the kernel. Base is being slimmed down where possible though: bind has been replaced with unbound, dma is likely going to replace sendmail in FreeBSD 11, IIRC, and now that pkgng is proven, the process of packaging the base system should be complete for FreeBSD 12, which will allow freebsd-update to be (mostly) replaced.
  • na85 9y ago
    Perhaps, but there's no systemd, which is a huge win.
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