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Now this is boring. People keep complaining about the fact that China's cheap stuff is flooding the US market. How about exporting some expensive US made stuff

Now this is boring. People keep complaining about the fact that China's cheap stuff is flooding the US market. How about exporting some expensive US made stuff to China to close the gap of trading? Oh, you can't. Chinese living in China are not even allowed to buy Intel Xeon Phi cards, export license is required to safeguard your nation. Maybe make the US short term visa more accessible to Chinese tourists so they can spend more cash in the US? Oh, you can't. tens of millions Chinese with science/engineering degrees will have to go through the mantis check managed by FBI to make sure they won't steal your nuke techs when visiting the casinos in Vegas. It can take up to several years to get a US tourist visa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_Advisory_Opinion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_Advisory_Opinion

chrinic726 9y ago
The job of the US government is to vehemently scrutinize and analyze Chinese (and non US) nationals when they enter the country. The job of the US government is to protect US citizens. If a Chinese citizen is inconvenienced by these policies, well, too bad. They can visit a different country. But in the end, they will still visit New York.
- Murkin 9y ago
  AFAIK the OP means that this hurts US more than Chinese tourists as the Chinese money is spent somewhere else and not in US.
- JumpCrisscross 9y ago
  > But in the end, they will still visit New York New Yorker here. No they won't. These policies end up with me having to fly to Hong Kong to oversee a Hong Kong team that deals with clients who got tired, over the past 15 years, with flying to the United States.
- 77pt77 9y ago
  > But in the end, they will still visit New York. Guess you haven't travelled much.
- thrillgore 9y ago
  You haven't been following recent events.
- Tepix 9y ago
  I haven't visited the US since 2000. Guess why? And indeed, there are plenty of other nice countries to visit.
kuschku 9y ago
And that’s why millions of chinese tourists every year are all across europe, buying everything they can get. Especially affected by this are cities known for quality products, for example Solingen, the city where most of modern high quality knives and scissors are from, is overran by chinese tourists. And the other thing you mentioned also works here – we simply export lots of automation robots to China, e.g. Foxconn just made a deal with a German automation company to replace over 400'000 workers with robots. Just to prove that your argument is not just valid, but actually proven in reality.
- ccozan 9y ago
  Are you talking about KUKA ? Because they just got bought by chinese [0]. [0] http://www.reuters.com/article/us-kuka-m-a-mideamidea-group-idUSKBN14J0SP http://www.reuters.com/article/us-kuka-m-a-mideamidea-group-...
mistermann 9y ago
As someone who has encountered tours of Chinese tourists in Vegas, I'm glad if there is some sort of a restriction regardless of how "just" it is.
gech 9y ago
Aren't we finding Chinese nationals snooping around fields to steal seed technology? Or being the (if not second to Russia) largest force behind computer intrusion to American corporations, for the purposes of stealing intellectual property?

chrinic726 9y ago

The job of the US government is to vehemently scrutinize and analyze Chinese (and non US) nationals when they enter the country. The job of the US government is to protect US citizens. If a Chinese citizen is inconvenienced by these policies, well, too bad. They can visit a different country. But in the end, they will still visit New York.

Murkin 9y ago
AFAIK the OP means that this hurts US more than Chinese tourists as the Chinese money is spent somewhere else and not in US.
JumpCrisscross 9y ago
> But in the end, they will still visit New York New Yorker here. No they won't. These policies end up with me having to fly to Hong Kong to oversee a Hong Kong team that deals with clients who got tired, over the past 15 years, with flying to the United States.
77pt77 9y ago
> But in the end, they will still visit New York. Guess you haven't travelled much.
thrillgore 9y ago
You haven't been following recent events.
Tepix 9y ago
I haven't visited the US since 2000. Guess why? And indeed, there are plenty of other nice countries to visit.

kuschku 9y ago

And that’s why millions of chinese tourists every year are all across europe, buying everything they can get. Especially affected by this are cities known for quality products, for example Solingen, the city where most of modern high quality knives and scissors are from, is overran by chinese tourists. And the other thing you mentioned also works here – we simply export lots of automation robots to China, e.g. Foxconn just made a deal with a German automation company to replace over 400'000 workers with robots. Just to prove that your argument is not just valid, but actually proven in reality.

ccozan 9y ago
Are you talking about KUKA ? Because they just got bought by chinese [0]. [0] http://www.reuters.com/article/us-kuka-m-a-mideamidea-group-idUSKBN14J0SP http://www.reuters.com/article/us-kuka-m-a-mideamidea-group-...

mistermann 9y ago

As someone who has encountered tours of Chinese tourists in Vegas, I'm glad if there is some sort of a restriction regardless of how "just" it is.

gech 9y ago

Aren't we finding Chinese nationals snooping around fields to steal seed technology? Or being the (if not second to Russia) largest force behind computer intrusion to American corporations, for the purposes of stealing intellectual property?