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>Companies, especially in the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) industries, are shifting their recruiting process from “where did you stu

by Kenji 9y ago

>Companies, especially in the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) industries, are shifting their recruiting process from “where did you study?” to “what can you do?”. But are they really? Go look at job openings. You will find more often than not 'X degree required' (or at least recommended). If you don't have a degree, your application will often go straight into the trash, before the question "what can you do?" is asked.

ju-st 9y ago
Two recruiters from Switzerland recently told me that the only things that matters is your study programme (should fit the one given in job opening) and your degree (B.Sc/M.Sc). Salary is non negotiable for entry level jobs. "What can you do" or whatever you did while in college increases only the chances of getting hired. But having basic programming skills is usually already enough to get an offer.
- julien421 9y ago
  > Salary is non negotiable for entry level jobs I can assure you that our students (Holberton) do negotiate their entry-level jobs. The majority successfully do so :) > the only things that matters is your study programme and your degree When we started we had no track record whatsoever. Our first students found internships but also jobs everywhere including both completely unknown and super cool startup and very high-profile companies such as NASA, Apple etc... they were all selected on what they could do and not on a degree (we are not accredited) nor the school itself (we had no track record) Today we atart to have a very good reputation so the problem is different, our atudents don't have to fight anymore, companies come to them. But for the first students it was very clear that ppl didn't care about degrees or "where do you come from".
collyw 9y ago
More like "have you used hyped-new-tech-v-0.6.1" because there is no way you can learn it on the job.
autotune 9y ago
That's for people that have to look at job openings. Without a degree and experience alone using open source tools and freely available resources, I am getting more recruiters spamming my LinkedIn than I care to sort through or respond to about 90 percent of the time.

by Kenji 9y ago

ju-st 9y ago

Two recruiters from Switzerland recently told me that the only things that matters is your study programme (should fit the one given in job opening) and your degree (B.Sc/M.Sc). Salary is non negotiable for entry level jobs. "What can you do" or whatever you did while in college increases only the chances of getting hired. But having basic programming skills is usually already enough to get an offer.

julien421 9y ago
> Salary is non negotiable for entry level jobs I can assure you that our students (Holberton) do negotiate their entry-level jobs. The majority successfully do so :) > the only things that matters is your study programme and your degree When we started we had no track record whatsoever. Our first students found internships but also jobs everywhere including both completely unknown and super cool startup and very high-profile companies such as NASA, Apple etc... they were all selected on what they could do and not on a degree (we are not accredited) nor the school itself (we had no track record) Today we atart to have a very good reputation so the problem is different, our atudents don't have to fight anymore, companies come to them. But for the first students it was very clear that ppl didn't care about degrees or "where do you come from".

collyw 9y ago

More like "have you used hyped-new-tech-v-0.6.1" because there is no way you can learn it on the job.

autotune 9y ago

That's for people that have to look at job openings. Without a degree and experience alone using open source tools and freely available resources, I am getting more recruiters spamming my LinkedIn than I care to sort through or respond to about 90 percent of the time.