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Author of curl and libcurl denied entry to U.S. with no explanation

57 points by cantrevealname 9y ago

ryancnelson 9y ago
Are we taking bets? I'd put a $5 on "somebody saw his domain name (haxx.se) on screen, and overreacted."
- a012 9y ago
  so he is 4chan
- flashman 9y ago
  What workflow ends up with a Customs and Border Patrol officer connecting that domain name to Stenberg's ESTA application? Here's a guess: some blacklisted piece of software uses curl and credited "daniel@haxx.se" as required by its licence[1]. Daniel was then mistaken as a creator of that software, and his email address flagged for any ESTA applications that use it. edit: apparently I'm not the first to think this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643525 [1]https://curl.haxx.se/docs/copyright.html https://curl.haxx.se/docs/copyright.html
y_u_no_rust 9y ago
america is such a shithole.
jaredsohn 9y ago
Previous post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643467 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643467
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TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago
…wait, their last name doesn't contain an “i”? I've been reading it as “Steinberg” all this time. Oops.
- simongray 9y ago
  Steinberg is German spelling, while Stenberg is Scandinavian.
  - TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago
    Of course. I think the problem is I've just not seen the latter before outside of this person's surname… I think.
harshreality 9y ago
People have been getting wrongly denied entry to the U.S. for bad/factually-incorrect reasons for decades, probably ever since we had an immigration system. Obviously immigration should do a better job on their false positive rates, and not just their false negative rates, but these are never going to go to zero. Someone probably made a clear mistake in this particular case, but without details who knows. For all we know there's some social media or blog post of his with something like a joke about harming he-who-shall-not-be-named.
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
  The problem isn't the mistakes, the problem is the kafkaesque process. Decisions are made that affect an individual, but the individual has no chance to correct mistaken assumptions about them in the decision making process.

ryancnelson 9y ago

Are we taking bets? I'd put a $5 on "somebody saw his domain name (haxx.se) on screen, and overreacted."

a012 9y ago
so he is 4chan
flashman 9y ago
What workflow ends up with a Customs and Border Patrol officer connecting that domain name to Stenberg's ESTA application? Here's a guess: some blacklisted piece of software uses curl and credited "daniel@haxx.se" as required by its licence[1]. Daniel was then mistaken as a creator of that software, and his email address flagged for any ESTA applications that use it. edit: apparently I'm not the first to think this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643525 [1]https://curl.haxx.se/docs/copyright.html https://curl.haxx.se/docs/copyright.html

y_u_no_rust 9y ago

america is such a shithole.

jaredsohn 9y ago

Previous post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643467 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14643467

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TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago

…wait, their last name doesn't contain an “i”? I've been reading it as “Steinberg” all this time. Oops.

simongray 9y ago
Steinberg is German spelling, while Stenberg is Scandinavian.
- TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago
  Of course. I think the problem is I've just not seen the latter before outside of this person's surname… I think.

harshreality 9y ago

People have been getting wrongly denied entry to the U.S. for bad/factually-incorrect reasons for decades, probably ever since we had an immigration system. Obviously immigration should do a better job on their false positive rates, and not just their false negative rates, but these are never going to go to zero. Someone probably made a clear mistake in this particular case, but without details who knows. For all we know there's some social media or blog post of his with something like a joke about harming he-who-shall-not-be-named.

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
The problem isn't the mistakes, the problem is the kafkaesque process. Decisions are made that affect an individual, but the individual has no chance to correct mistaken assumptions about them in the decision making process.