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> Security cameras and police cars that continuously scan the faces of pedestrians and other drivers. It will happen. It's already pervasive: 1998:"Face-recog

> Security cameras and police cars that continuously scan the faces of pedestrians and other drivers. It will happen. It's already pervasive: 1998:"Face-recognition CCTV launched" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/face-recognition-cctv-launched-1178300.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/face-recognition-cctv-laun... 2015: "A scheme widely used by UK stores to identify criminals is testing facial recognition technology, the BBC has learned." http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35111363 http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35111363 2016: "Retailers are increasingly using facial recognition technology to track your face. With an estimated 59% of UK fashion retailers doing it, is the anonymity of cities an outdated idea?" https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/03/revealed-facial-recognition-software-infiltrating-cities-saks-toronto https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/03/revealed-faci... 2014: "UK, the world’s most surveilled state, begins using automated face recognition to catch criminals" https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/186435-uk-the-worlds-most-surveilled-state-begins-using-automated-face-recognition-to-catch-criminals https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/186435-uk-the-worlds-mos... 2014: "CCTV cameras on Britain's roads capture 26 million images every day" https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/23/cctv-cameras-uk-roads-numberplate-recognition https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/23/cctv-cameras... 2017: "New York plans to install vast system of facial recognition cameras that matches drivers licenses to social media accounts at bridges and tunnels " http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4167854/New-York-install-facial-recognition-cameras.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4167854/New-York-ins... You can google for more, watch out for those black helicopters tonight.

dgfgfdagasdfgfa 9y ago
What an odd obsession with preventing crime with cameras from the culture that brought us 1984.
- wamsachel 9y ago
  It's not odd at all when you consider what works of Orwell are cited in pop culture (1984, Animal Farm) and which ones are not (Homage to Catalonia)
  - jchien17 9y ago
    Can you expand more? Is it the difference in opinion of the totalitarianism exhibited in 1984 vs. the anarchism from Homage?
    - wamsachel 9y ago
      His writings critical of the West go largely ignored in the West, which again isn't that surprising. For example his forward for Animal Farm was famously censored from publication.
dhimes 9y ago
> 2017: "New York plans to install vast system of facial recognition cameras that matches drivers licenses to social media accounts at bridges and tunnels " Wow. Just, wow. And I agree: even governments that "don't want to do it" will be compelled to at the first horrific incident that could have been prevented with the technology. The only way to stop that from happening is to outlaw it. I simply don't believe there are very many Edward Snowdens in the world.
- zabana 9y ago
  Yeah the infamous "terrorist" threat ...
  - justicezyx 9y ago
    What do you want to say? There is no real terrorism threat? Or what?
    - justinpombrio 9y ago
      That the threat of terrorism can be used to justify everything up to and including a totalitarian government.
      - justicezyx 9y ago
        First, threat of terrorism is real. Second, monitoring citizens' behavior does not automatically translate to totalitarianism. Personally I prefer safety. And I avoid showing myself over online for privacy concerns. But I do not call safety measure a poly to implement totalitarian government. If you have a systematic approach to achieve safety and counter terrorism, without monitoring citizens, then please state it briefly. I personally have no idea how to prevent without close monitoring. China is different, it has always been totalitarian. It's natural for the government to monitor citizens without much resistance. This is a statement, without value judgement.
        9y ago

dgfgfdagasdfgfa 9y ago

What an odd obsession with preventing crime with cameras from the culture that brought us 1984.

wamsachel 9y ago
It's not odd at all when you consider what works of Orwell are cited in pop culture (1984, Animal Farm) and which ones are not (Homage to Catalonia)
- jchien17 9y ago
  Can you expand more? Is it the difference in opinion of the totalitarianism exhibited in 1984 vs. the anarchism from Homage?
  - wamsachel 9y ago
    His writings critical of the West go largely ignored in the West, which again isn't that surprising. For example his forward for Animal Farm was famously censored from publication.

dhimes 9y ago

> 2017: "New York plans to install vast system of facial recognition cameras that matches drivers licenses to social media accounts at bridges and tunnels " Wow. Just, wow. And I agree: even governments that "don't want to do it" will be compelled to at the first horrific incident that could have been prevented with the technology. The only way to stop that from happening is to outlaw it. I simply don't believe there are very many Edward Snowdens in the world.

zabana 9y ago
Yeah the infamous "terrorist" threat ...
- justicezyx 9y ago
  What do you want to say? There is no real terrorism threat? Or what?
  - justinpombrio 9y ago
    That the threat of terrorism can be used to justify everything up to and including a totalitarian government.
    - justicezyx 9y ago
      First, threat of terrorism is real. Second, monitoring citizens' behavior does not automatically translate to totalitarianism. Personally I prefer safety. And I avoid showing myself over online for privacy concerns. But I do not call safety measure a poly to implement totalitarian government. If you have a systematic approach to achieve safety and counter terrorism, without monitoring citizens, then please state it briefly. I personally have no idea how to prevent without close monitoring. China is different, it has always been totalitarian. It's natural for the government to monitor citizens without much resistance. This is a statement, without value judgement.
      - 9y ago