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I'm surprised the possibility of moving to the third world doesn't come up more often here. For the price of rent in SF (say 1000$ pr month) you could eat out (

by fgf 16y ago

I'm surprised the possibility of moving to the third world doesn't come up more often here. For the price of rent in SF (say 1000$ pr month) you could eat out (and eat well) everyday, party with westerners for next to nothing and hire a programmer to help you out with your work in countries like Malaysia or the Philippines. Links to blogs, posts, twitterfeeds etc. of people who have done this would, btw, be appreciated.

endtime 16y ago
The problem is that moving to e.g. the Phillipines will give you a Filipino income. If you make your money in the US and then spend some there, you can be quite "wealthy", but if you start a company there your returns will scale down with your costs.
- frederickcook 16y ago
  Wha? We are talking about internet freelancing here, aren't we?
  - endtime 16y ago
    Oh, yes, so we are. My mistake.
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cageface 16y ago
Yeah I've considered this too actually. I was kicking around the idea of relocating to Vietnam for a while this way. I wonder how much more difficult working remotely from that far away would be. I imagine there are programmers already living in places like that that would be happy to get contracts at first-world salaries, so hopefully being a native speaker and understanding first-world cultural conventions would be enough to justify asking first-world salaries.
- fgf 16y ago
  Professionally I think you can leverage your knowledge and first world status better if you move to a place with people who speak better english (the Philippines/India/Malaysia) and with a larger outsourcing industry (the Philippines/India/Malaysia). Unless you by native speaker mean native Vietnamese speaker, that could be an awesome advantage -- wages are for workers in the outsourcing industry is, among other things, determined by english speaking ability. When it comes to getting first world salaries where you do contracting work is probably often irrelevant -- and could also be hard to tell (depending on need for communication making time differences or unstable internet connections problematic etc.). I have been wondering about the possibility of being a sort of salesman/manager/quality controller for contracting work with Filipinos doing the grunt work. (The Philippines and Malaysia does not tax foreign sourced income, wich could go a long way to offset a decrease in pre tax income.)

by fgf 16y ago

endtime 16y ago

The problem is that moving to e.g. the Phillipines will give you a Filipino income. If you make your money in the US and then spend some there, you can be quite "wealthy", but if you start a company there your returns will scale down with your costs.

frederickcook 16y ago
Wha? We are talking about internet freelancing here, aren't we?
- endtime 16y ago
  Oh, yes, so we are. My mistake.

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cageface 16y ago

Yeah I've considered this too actually. I was kicking around the idea of relocating to Vietnam for a while this way. I wonder how much more difficult working remotely from that far away would be. I imagine there are programmers already living in places like that that would be happy to get contracts at first-world salaries, so hopefully being a native speaker and understanding first-world cultural conventions would be enough to justify asking first-world salaries.

fgf 16y ago
Professionally I think you can leverage your knowledge and first world status better if you move to a place with people who speak better english (the Philippines/India/Malaysia) and with a larger outsourcing industry (the Philippines/India/Malaysia). Unless you by native speaker mean native Vietnamese speaker, that could be an awesome advantage -- wages are for workers in the outsourcing industry is, among other things, determined by english speaking ability. When it comes to getting first world salaries where you do contracting work is probably often irrelevant -- and could also be hard to tell (depending on need for communication making time differences or unstable internet connections problematic etc.). I have been wondering about the possibility of being a sort of salesman/manager/quality controller for contracting work with Filipinos doing the grunt work. (The Philippines and Malaysia does not tax foreign sourced income, wich could go a long way to offset a decrease in pre tax income.)