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To me it seems disingenuous to call that "election hacking". "Election hacking" conjures images of manipulating voting machines, but what Russia did based on t
by ythn 9y ago
To me it seems disingenuous to call that "election hacking".
"Election hacking" conjures images of manipulating voting machines, but what Russia did based on that link you provided was simply find unsavory things the DNC has done in order to bring negative PR to the party.
- ascagnel_ 9y agoI think it would be more appropriate to say that Russian influence socially engineered the 2016 election rather than outright hacked the election. One other thing to consider: US elections are by definition secure from a wholesale hacking on account of the election being run on a patchwork of systems that differ from state to state (and sometimes county to county or even precinct to precinct). However, this same design and subsequent long list of vulnerabilities found in election machines and their software means that it would be possible to tip crucial precincts and districts in surgical, spear-phishing style attacks that may not attract all that much attention.
- unityByFreedom 9y agoIsn't there some question over whether Russia supplied illegally obtained data, such as emails or voter registration details (or metadata generated from said data), to the Trump campaign? That's more than social engineering. It's potentially hacking and collusion. EDIT: Wow, quick to downvote. I thought we were in favor of waiting until the investigation concludes to say decisively whether or not collusion happened.
- catawbasam 9y agoA GOP consultant named Aaron Nevins requested and received detailed campaign data from Guccifer 2 that was hacked from the Dems. This included the Dem voter turnout model, "worth millions" according to Nevins. Guccifer 2 forwarded Nevin's analysis to Trump associate Roger Stone. Story at Wall Street Journal, May 25 2017. Short non pay wall version on Ars Technica.
- rsynnott 9y agoThat was a rather old article. See https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-b... Also see Russian activities in the Ukraine, Bulgaria, etc.
- CharlesW 9y ago> To me it seems disingenuous to call that "election hacking". Really, you've never heard of social engineering/hacking? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_hacking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_hacking
- AckSyn 9y agoAnd it's extremely misleading to use media buzzwords that convey an entirely different meaning. It's essentially lying to the public.
- KekDemaga 9y agoIf I broke the pin on your smartphone and obtained evidence of infidelity on your part and gave it to your wife, did I hack your marriage?
- willvarfar 9y agoYou hacked his phone. You influenced his wife.
- ythn 9y agoWife hacking?
- kesselvon 9y agoThey hacked more than the DNC. Lots of competitive districts had their Dems hacked, and the propaganda campaign using bots and fake news.
- 52-6F-62 9y agoThere have been reports of voter data being manipulated, with some voters being unregistered shortly before election day. I can dig up further info if anybody wants, but it shouldn't be too hard to find. This is the first report I came across: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/voter-data-manipulated-in-2016-hacks-report-974201923942 http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/voter-data-manipula...