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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262 WW2 fighter jet

by lugg 9y ago

jwilk 9y ago
Non-mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262
- simias 9y ago
  Completely off topic but I don't understand why wikipedia doesn't simply select the desktop/mobile version of the website based on the user agent (with maybe the possibility to override the behaviour via a cookie if you really want to use the desktop version on mobile or vice-versa). The number of times I have to manually edit a wikipedia URL every day to remove the ".m" part is getting frustrating. I'm sure there's a browser extension for that but really, I blame wikipedia's poor ergonomics.
  - FrozenVoid 9y ago
    https://www.reddit.com/r/frozenvoid/wiki/userscripts/wikipedia/wikimobile2desktop https://www.reddit.com/r/frozenvoid/wiki/userscripts/wikiped...
  - venning 9y ago
    My guess is that this is similar to StackOverflow switching to HTTPS [1]. Once you get to a certain size, something seemingly simple like turning on HTTPS or detecting desktops and redirecting comes with non-trivial problems. I can only imagine all the nuances that have to be addressed when you're serving the fifth largest site in the world [2]. [1] https://nickcraver.com/blog/2017/05/22/https-on-stack-overflow/ https://nickcraver.com/blog/2017/05/22/https-on-stack-overfl... [2] http://www.alexa.com/topsites http://www.alexa.com/topsites
  - rsynnott 9y ago
    > Completely off topic but I don't understand why wikipedia doesn't simply select the desktop/mobile version of the website based on the user agent It actually does, but only when deciding to show the terrible mobile site instead of the desktop one. Even on a bloody iPad.
  - twobyfour 9y ago
    Personally, I love that Wikipedia doesn't coerce you into the desktop or mobile version based on user agent. Being able to switch to the (somewhat more complete) desktop version when browsing on a phone is invaluable.
    - simias 9y ago
      Sure, I mentioned that they could put an override, but sane defaults would be good. I don't know how many people actually mean to visit the mobile version of WP on the desktop when they follow a ".m" link, but I'd wager that it's pretty damn low.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262 WW2 fighter jet

by lugg 9y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262 WW2 fighter jet

jwilk 9y ago

Non-mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262

simias 9y ago
Completely off topic but I don't understand why wikipedia doesn't simply select the desktop/mobile version of the website based on the user agent (with maybe the possibility to override the behaviour via a cookie if you really want to use the desktop version on mobile or vice-versa). The number of times I have to manually edit a wikipedia URL every day to remove the ".m" part is getting frustrating. I'm sure there's a browser extension for that but really, I blame wikipedia's poor ergonomics.
- FrozenVoid 9y ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/frozenvoid/wiki/userscripts/wikipedia/wikimobile2desktop https://www.reddit.com/r/frozenvoid/wiki/userscripts/wikiped...
- venning 9y ago
  My guess is that this is similar to StackOverflow switching to HTTPS [1]. Once you get to a certain size, something seemingly simple like turning on HTTPS or detecting desktops and redirecting comes with non-trivial problems. I can only imagine all the nuances that have to be addressed when you're serving the fifth largest site in the world [2]. [1] https://nickcraver.com/blog/2017/05/22/https-on-stack-overflow/ https://nickcraver.com/blog/2017/05/22/https-on-stack-overfl... [2] http://www.alexa.com/topsites http://www.alexa.com/topsites
- rsynnott 9y ago
  > Completely off topic but I don't understand why wikipedia doesn't simply select the desktop/mobile version of the website based on the user agent It actually does, but only when deciding to show the terrible mobile site instead of the desktop one. Even on a bloody iPad.
- twobyfour 9y ago
  Personally, I love that Wikipedia doesn't coerce you into the desktop or mobile version based on user agent. Being able to switch to the (somewhat more complete) desktop version when browsing on a phone is invaluable.
  - simias 9y ago
    Sure, I mentioned that they could put an override, but sane defaults would be good. I don't know how many people actually mean to visit the mobile version of WP on the desktop when they follow a ".m" link, but I'd wager that it's pretty damn low.