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I need to kill apps quite often because the app has a bug and killing it, whether it actually kills it or not, ends up making the app redisplay or resync etc...

robin_reala 9y ago
Sure, absolutely not saying it doesn’t happen. But one extra long press to kill the current app isn’t problematic given that ideally you shouldn’t have to do it at all, and no-one needs to kill every recently used app (or rather, if you’re finding problems in multiple apps you really need to reboot your phone instead).
- exodust 9y ago
  Often I want to properly exit the app because I don't want it starting next time where I left off, but instead from its default opening state, starting screen, initial menu, a clean slate. A one tap exit button in the app is perfect for that, but sadly missing from many apps. Swiping up from app list was next best thing and its sad to hear this has been removed. The idea that exit buttons are redundant is completely missing the point. Reset, restart, save, quit - it's fundamental to software design but somehow these concepts have been demoted.
  - coldtea 9y ago
    >Often I want to properly exit the app because I don't want it starting next time where I left off, but instead from its default opening state, starting screen, initial menu, a clean slate. That might be legit as a wish, but it's not an encouraged (or expected) use case in iOS though. The default is "return where one had left", so this is in some way an abuse of the system to do something it can manage, but wasn't designed to offer. In which case it's expected that it might clash with other UI choices.
    - exodust 9y ago
      A "session" ought to have a beginning and end rather than be stuck as CPU-managed neverending story. I'm only asking for the option to control things, not one or the other. Open a few browser tabs for example, you're shopping for new shoes. Find shoes. Close browser. Makes no sense that tomorrow you open the browser and your 15 shoe tabs from yesterday's session are still there when all you want is your home page. Ever tried closing 15 tabs in iOS Safari? That's 15 taps. Likewise, the "don't need to save" idea is flawed too, with plenty of examples why a good old save button actually makes more sense that having the OS save every single change you make, even the mistakes. I'm also with the OP on icon confusion. The one that always gets me is the bookmarks icon in iOS Safari. I always press the little book icon when I want to save a bookmark. No... that's not right. Must press the '+' button to add a bookmark. The actual bookmark icon is for retrieving bookmarks, not saving them. I'm only human though, so I reach for the book when I want to perform a bookmark action. I guess I'm wrong every single time.

robin_reala 9y ago

Sure, absolutely not saying it doesn’t happen. But one extra long press to kill the current app isn’t problematic given that ideally you shouldn’t have to do it at all, and no-one needs to kill every recently used app (or rather, if you’re finding problems in multiple apps you really need to reboot your phone instead).

exodust 9y ago
Often I want to properly exit the app because I don't want it starting next time where I left off, but instead from its default opening state, starting screen, initial menu, a clean slate. A one tap exit button in the app is perfect for that, but sadly missing from many apps. Swiping up from app list was next best thing and its sad to hear this has been removed. The idea that exit buttons are redundant is completely missing the point. Reset, restart, save, quit - it's fundamental to software design but somehow these concepts have been demoted.
- coldtea 9y ago
  >Often I want to properly exit the app because I don't want it starting next time where I left off, but instead from its default opening state, starting screen, initial menu, a clean slate. That might be legit as a wish, but it's not an encouraged (or expected) use case in iOS though. The default is "return where one had left", so this is in some way an abuse of the system to do something it can manage, but wasn't designed to offer. In which case it's expected that it might clash with other UI choices.
  - exodust 9y ago
    A "session" ought to have a beginning and end rather than be stuck as CPU-managed neverending story. I'm only asking for the option to control things, not one or the other. Open a few browser tabs for example, you're shopping for new shoes. Find shoes. Close browser. Makes no sense that tomorrow you open the browser and your 15 shoe tabs from yesterday's session are still there when all you want is your home page. Ever tried closing 15 tabs in iOS Safari? That's 15 taps. Likewise, the "don't need to save" idea is flawed too, with plenty of examples why a good old save button actually makes more sense that having the OS save every single change you make, even the mistakes. I'm also with the OP on icon confusion. The one that always gets me is the bookmarks icon in iOS Safari. I always press the little book icon when I want to save a bookmark. No... that's not right. Must press the '+' button to add a bookmark. The actual bookmark icon is for retrieving bookmarks, not saving them. I'm only human though, so I reach for the book when I want to perform a bookmark action. I guess I'm wrong every single time.