Here is a podcast she did in 2016 with James Howard Kunstler. http://kunstler.com/podcast/chatting-kate-wagner-mcmansion-hell-dot-com/ http://kunstler.com/podc

Here is a podcast she did in 2016 with James Howard Kunstler. http://kunstler.com/podcast/chatting-kate-wagner-mcmansion-hell-dot-com/ http://kunstler.com/podcast/chatting-kate-wagner-mcmansion-h...