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I want to learn Japanese. 3 months ago I changed my phone's language to Japanese. Everything is Japanese - maps, services, apps that read from the default phon
by buf 9y ago
I want to learn Japanese.
3 months ago I changed my phone's language to Japanese. Everything is Japanese - maps, services, apps that read from the default phone language.
Oddly enough, instead of learning Japanese, I just use my phone less.
- notadoc 9y agoThat's kind of funny. Similarly, I stopped listening to any music on my iPhone once I got an iPhone 7. Unexpected side effect of having no headphone jack, but I always forget the dongle somewhere. So, no more music from the iPhone. I listen to old am/fm talk radio again instead.
- lathiat 9y agoBuy AirPods. Honestly.
- mikestew 9y agoParent forgets the dongle, but will somehow remember to pack the AirPods? I love mine, but I don't think they'll solve the problem described.
- notadoc 9y agoI considered it but I'm not a big fan of headphones, I usually listen to music at home or in a car. One of the most annoying situations was when I had a great podcast I wanted to share with someone on a long drive, pulled out the iPhone 7 to plug into their car stereo and.... new-ish car.... but AUX only.... no dongle..... never mind! I believe Apple removed the headphone jack 5 or 10 years too early. Bluetooth is not that great, and it's also not that widespread. AUX is not a floppy or CD drive, it is everywhere and works great and allows for high quality audio, no troubleshooting, no compression, no hassle. The alternatives (dongle? Bluetooth?) is comparatively nowhere and does not work great.
- anbende 9y agoBluetooth radio transmitter for the car is like $100 (for a good one). Quality is only slightly worse than radio (for a good one). Problem solved. Enjoy
- seszett 9y agoWorse than radio? That's not what I have experienced. I'm using a 1,5€ BK8000L module (http://www.electrodragon.com/w/BK8000L http://www.electrodragon.com/w/BK8000L) that I soldered to my old stock autoradio, replacing the tape audio circuit, and the quality is much better than FM.
- anbende 9y agoSounds like you're connecting the device directly to the audio system. With a radio transmitter, you're broadcasting on an fm band that the car picks up via the fm tuner. Of course if the person is willing to attach something to the car audio as you have, that's the best!
- seszett 9y agoI'm not sure what you were suggesting before, then, when saying that a bluetooth transmitter is worse than radio... ah unless you were talking about some kind of device => bluetooth => fm => autoradio contraption? I didn't think about that, yeah, but the OP said they had an AUX input, so quality should be good with a (even cheap) bluetooth adapter on that.
- stepanhruda 9y agoWait what? You forget the dongle but don't use headphones? How many different cars do you drive/how many aux cables do you use? Just keep the dongle on the cable. Personally I bought Bluetooth headphones and that's it, imo people are being too dramatic about it.
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- scriptkiddy 9y agoFor a second I thought you were implying that not listening to music is a good thing. Glad to hear that's not what you believe.
- Bakary 9y agoNot using headphones too often is a very good thing, unless there are at a sufficiently low volume (which is never the case).
- scriptkiddy 9y agoOh, you're talking about hearing damage. I'm simply talking about listening to music in general.
- iaskwhy 9y agoMy life changed slightly when I decided to enable the EU recommended setting for volume on the iPhone. Not sure if this feature is available outside of EU but it's great.
- swiley 9y agoIt is on android.
- notadoc 9y agoOh no I think it's a very bad thing. My implication is that I either shouldn't have bought an iPhone 7, or maybe that Apple pulled the headphone jack a decade too early.
- zulln 9y agoI always leave the dongle on in-ear headphones, that way I never forget them. Sure, the problem still exists for listening in a new environment (a friend's car, as someone here gave as example), but not with your own headphones. (mind you, I do not listen with in-ear headphones when I actually want to enjoy music, but they sure are a lot easier to bring with me than my "real headphones") Edit, as a bonus, as I almost always have my in-ears with me, is that I most often also have access to the dongle while in new environments as well.
- starik36 9y agoI am always confused about posts like these. iPhone 7 comes with lighting headphones. Why can't you use those? No dongle required.
- teirce 9y agoA lot of people already own headphones that are usually more comfortable / sound better than the standard Apple earbuds. I suppose it's not "can't", but "won't."
- zulln 9y agoI rather not listen to music at all, but to do it with Apple's headphones. Never been a fan of those.
- johnnydoe9 9y agoIt's a one-device investment, you can't even use them on macbooks without a dongle converting it to 3.5mm jack let alone people who have 2 phones and the other being an Android, can't use the headphones on Android tabs or laptops. No point getting locked in.
- illvm 9y agoI've lost my dongle twice now, but only because of being in a hurry during travel or packing. Otherwise it's always attached to my headphones and I don't really have that problem. Although I've considered getting BT headphones to use so I would just stop having that problem. But then I'd never be able to play music at people's houses, so...
- bigbugbag 9y agoThat's not how you learn japanese.
- patrick_haply 9y agoI imagine it's probably a decent way to practice it though, assuming you have enough working knowledge of the language to still get around your phone. Edit: Well, except for the part where they admitted they just started to use their phone less.
- goobynight 9y agoIt's a good method, but not for a beginner. I have, in reality, seen 2 people do this and they were both already quite grounded in the Japanese language (several years).
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y agoI did the same thing! The difficult part is looking up kanji I encounter in app UIs, you can't exactly copy+paste them and manual lookup is annoying.
- drenvuk 9y agoI feel no shame suggesting that you get the Pleco app. It is the best Character/Kanji dictionary that exists today. You can also draw them to look them up + tons of other stuff.
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y agoI only run open source software on my phone. However, I think there are some similar FOSS apps for Japanese on F-Droid, I'll have to take another look.
- drenvuk 9y agoI wonder about this. Can't you just lock down the app to the point where you don't have to worry about it phoning home or accessing certain information? Or is it just ideology that's stopping you?
- titanix2 9y agoMy most productive year, which included majoring in Japanese, was when I was living in an apartment without access to internet (no smartphone either by this time). Since then I wasn't able to focus so intensely on learning vocabulary or kanji. The last few days I really feel the effect of having to check my phone every hours or so. This article motivate me to turn it off for the week. Thanks!
- kstenerud 9y agoGo to Japan, get a girlfriend who doesn't speak English. Takes about 6 months after that to become fluent.
- themodelplumber 9y agoOddly enough, I just use my girlfriend less. (On a more serious note, 6-month girlfriend fluency in Japanese is something I've observed a few times, and it's a great stepping stone but mostly just barely functional. Especially when your situational choice of e.g. verb form broadcasts so much about your educational background)
- Shivetya 9y agoputting oneself in a position where you interact with a person whose first language is not English does tend to increase the odds you will learn a second language provided both are interested in that outcome
- jyriand 9y agoDuolingo introduced japanese language recently. Here you go, now you have a reason to use your phone.
- klodolph 9y agoInstead, you should set it to Netherlands (Dutch). The words are largely reminiscent of the corresponding English words but you might get a giggle out of some of them.
- QAkICoU7IDNkpFu 9y agoMaybe enable TTS so that you heard what you're reading? I once played Metro 2033 on my own "hard mode": Everything on hard, HUD on minimal, text in Russian, spoken on Russian. When you play the game, listen to what's being said and read the subtitles, you can actually learn the alphabet while playing the game. I still can't read Russian fluently, but I can now decipher/map each individual letter to a Latin version and such at the least understand what's being written! Sadly, a lack of time made me stop playing.