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Really interesting that they're using this as an oppertunity to officially release Star Fox 2 [0]. It's neat to see and is pretty unexpected. [0] https://en.wi

Really interesting that they're using this as an oppertunity to officially release Star Fox 2 [0]. It's neat to see and is pretty unexpected. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Fox_2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Fox_2

monocasa 9y ago
It'll be interesting to see the actual ROM they use. IIRC, the ROMs floating around on the internet needed some binary patching to run correctly. If Nintendo uses the pirated version that generally exists on the internet like they did for the NES classic, you could argue that they don't own all the copyright to it.
- derefr 9y ago
  If the binary just needs patching to run on a factory-default SNES, then they'll likely do what they've done with all their Virtual Console games: patch the SNES emulator to run the game, rather than patching the game to run on their emulator. Unlike most emulator-writers, Nintendo aren't trying to be "faithful to what the original hardware did", after all. They get to define the hardware and to define the experience. The "SNES Classic" experience of a game doesn't have to be the same thing as the SNES experience of a game—especially if it's a game nobody ever (legitimately) played on a SNES, and thus a game nobody has nostalgia over seeing reproduced in its original fidelity. On the other hand, they might just still have the original source code lying around to fix and rebuild. Under the old pre-SCM development paradigm, you might throw all that stuff away when you release a game... but there's no reason to throw it away for an unreleased game.
- phonon 9y ago
  The final ROM was never leaked. They are using that. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/plug-and-play-snes-classic-coming-sept-29-for-80-with-two-controllers/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/plug-and-play-snes-cl... https://web.archive.org/web/20150707132659/http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/feature_the_full_story_behind_star_fox_2_nintendos_most_famous_cancellation https://web.archive.org/web/20150707132659/http://www.ninten... " "During development we received a copy of the mastered Star Fox 2 ROM to play, and it was quite a blast." This ROM would have been the final game, complete with QA tweaks and ready for a release that never happened. Cuthbert is keen to point out that this version is far superior to the numerous leaked prototype ROMs which are currently doing the rounds on the web - the leaking of which has been erroneously attributed to himself. "There are a few ROMs on the net in various conditions," he states. "But the ones I checked out are all old and they don't have the randomizing Rogue-like stuff working or all the encounters in place, so you don't really get the feel of the game we were making." "

monocasa 9y ago

It'll be interesting to see the actual ROM they use. IIRC, the ROMs floating around on the internet needed some binary patching to run correctly. If Nintendo uses the pirated version that generally exists on the internet like they did for the NES classic, you could argue that they don't own all the copyright to it.

derefr 9y ago
If the binary just needs patching to run on a factory-default SNES, then they'll likely do what they've done with all their Virtual Console games: patch the SNES emulator to run the game, rather than patching the game to run on their emulator. Unlike most emulator-writers, Nintendo aren't trying to be "faithful to what the original hardware did", after all. They get to define the hardware and to define the experience. The "SNES Classic" experience of a game doesn't have to be the same thing as the SNES experience of a game—especially if it's a game nobody ever (legitimately) played on a SNES, and thus a game nobody has nostalgia over seeing reproduced in its original fidelity. On the other hand, they might just still have the original source code lying around to fix and rebuild. Under the old pre-SCM development paradigm, you might throw all that stuff away when you release a game... but there's no reason to throw it away for an unreleased game.
phonon 9y ago
The final ROM was never leaked. They are using that. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/plug-and-play-snes-classic-coming-sept-29-for-80-with-two-controllers/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/06/plug-and-play-snes-cl... https://web.archive.org/web/20150707132659/http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/feature_the_full_story_behind_star_fox_2_nintendos_most_famous_cancellation https://web.archive.org/web/20150707132659/http://www.ninten... " "During development we received a copy of the mastered Star Fox 2 ROM to play, and it was quite a blast." This ROM would have been the final game, complete with QA tweaks and ready for a release that never happened. Cuthbert is keen to point out that this version is far superior to the numerous leaked prototype ROMs which are currently doing the rounds on the web - the leaking of which has been erroneously attributed to himself. "There are a few ROMs on the net in various conditions," he states. "But the ones I checked out are all old and they don't have the randomizing Rogue-like stuff working or all the encounters in place, so you don't really get the feel of the game we were making." "