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America is already engaged in a "cold" civil war between the cities and the rural communities. The cultural and economic future of the nation is being legislat

America is already engaged in a "cold" civil war between the cities and the rural communities. The cultural and economic future of the nation is being legislated by the current victor. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

qubex 9y ago
”Cold Civil War” is the best term to describe and surmise the current predicament I've read so far in years of considering these problems. Is it your phrase?
- louprado 9y ago
  First use I could find is by John Derbyshire June 27, 2013 [1]. This is a powerful phrase that hopefully finds common usage. Perhaps we'd all have less contempt towards opposing views if we are reminded that violence occurs when contempt levels get too high. [1] http://takimag.com/article/the_cold_civil_war_grinds_on_john_derbyshire/print#ixzz4l2lQBlcE http://takimag.com/article/the_cold_civil_war_grinds_on_john...
  - qubex 9y ago
    Thank you. I'm surprised I haven't come across it before. It is certainly memorable enough to stick in my mind... it certainly has now!
  - dredmorbius 9y ago
    William Gibson, 2006: http://williamgibsonblog.blogspot.com.au/2006_01_01_archive.html http://williamgibsonblog.blogspot.com.au/2006_01_01_archive.... (Via a friend on Mastodon -- I very much liked your usage of this term.) https://mastodon.social/users/DenubisX/updates/3436121 https://mastodon.social/users/DenubisX/updates/3436121
- godzillabrennus 9y ago
  Yes, it's a phrase I conjured up and started using to describe the current political situation.
emodendroket 9y ago
While the Republican voter base is much more rural than the Democrats I think it'd be pretty naive to say that the interest of the common rural man is currently what's being enacted.
- dredmorbius 9y ago
  That should be pretty plainly evident. At the same time, it's the rural and urban electorates being played off one another. That's a long con. https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6i3lj3/the_urbanrural_divide_an_enduring_complex_vs/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6i3lj3/the_urb... https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6i2h0e/ahm_jones_augustus_the_breakdown_of_the_republic/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6i2h0e/ahm_jon...
mistermann 9y ago
> The cultural and economic future of the nation is being legislated by the current victor. So the people that really control things would have you think. In reality, it is being legislated by the same people that have been in control for decades now. Who that might exactly be I do not know.
- emodendroket 9y ago
  It's not that mysterious. Political factions have patron industries and large-scale donors and their voices count way more than anybody else's.
empath75 9y ago
You know, as an economic liberal and someone who makes a really good living in the city, if be thrilled if rural voters voted to tax us and distribute more money to the less well off, but they actually voted to get rid of their own health care so they could give me a tax cut.
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- brianwawok 9y ago
  I struggle with this as well. Makes me not want to fight the good fight.

qubex 9y ago

”Cold Civil War” is the best term to describe and surmise the current predicament I've read so far in years of considering these problems. Is it your phrase?

louprado 9y ago
First use I could find is by John Derbyshire June 27, 2013 [1]. This is a powerful phrase that hopefully finds common usage. Perhaps we'd all have less contempt towards opposing views if we are reminded that violence occurs when contempt levels get too high. [1] http://takimag.com/article/the_cold_civil_war_grinds_on_john_derbyshire/print#ixzz4l2lQBlcE http://takimag.com/article/the_cold_civil_war_grinds_on_john...
- qubex 9y ago
  Thank you. I'm surprised I haven't come across it before. It is certainly memorable enough to stick in my mind... it certainly has now!
- dredmorbius 9y ago
  William Gibson, 2006: http://williamgibsonblog.blogspot.com.au/2006_01_01_archive.html http://williamgibsonblog.blogspot.com.au/2006_01_01_archive.... (Via a friend on Mastodon -- I very much liked your usage of this term.) https://mastodon.social/users/DenubisX/updates/3436121 https://mastodon.social/users/DenubisX/updates/3436121
godzillabrennus 9y ago
Yes, it's a phrase I conjured up and started using to describe the current political situation.

emodendroket 9y ago

While the Republican voter base is much more rural than the Democrats I think it'd be pretty naive to say that the interest of the common rural man is currently what's being enacted.

dredmorbius 9y ago
That should be pretty plainly evident. At the same time, it's the rural and urban electorates being played off one another. That's a long con. https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6i3lj3/the_urbanrural_divide_an_enduring_complex_vs/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6i3lj3/the_urb... https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6i2h0e/ahm_jones_augustus_the_breakdown_of_the_republic/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6i2h0e/ahm_jon...

mistermann 9y ago

> The cultural and economic future of the nation is being legislated by the current victor. So the people that really control things would have you think. In reality, it is being legislated by the same people that have been in control for decades now. Who that might exactly be I do not know.

emodendroket 9y ago
It's not that mysterious. Political factions have patron industries and large-scale donors and their voices count way more than anybody else's.

empath75 9y ago

You know, as an economic liberal and someone who makes a really good living in the city, if be thrilled if rural voters voted to tax us and distribute more money to the less well off, but they actually voted to get rid of their own health care so they could give me a tax cut.

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brianwawok 9y ago
I struggle with this as well. Makes me not want to fight the good fight.