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I live in the EU, and what I see is that the two sides ( progressives / modern conservatives ) almost say the same things with very subtle differences, and the
by ViktorV 9y ago
I live in the EU, and what I see is that the two sides ( progressives / modern conservatives ) almost say the same things with very subtle differences, and the real difference is the way they talk.
I saw a comment here that stated that a neoliberal won against a progressive which is right. But every poll shows that Bernie would have won against Trump. This basically means that the right wingers actually agree with the progressive talking points: global warming, health care, and a little bit of anti globalism. This also means that Hillary didn't represent these.
I've also seen here that there is there is no left wing push. Some talking points of Hillary are the best example of that, for ex. "vote for me because I'm a woman". Many people who think that there are no major differences between a man and a woman will think that this statement is sexist. There is a push to be kind with everyone and it is forced on people very hard ( NASA guy with the shirt ).
This is very real as you can see in many comments. This like racism against black people in the U.S: if you ask black people many will say that they never experienced it, same like conservatives, but this doesn't necessary mean that it doesn't exists.
My main point that the progressive movement has two sides: one with important issues which are physically influences our lives, and one which wants social change. IMHO the social changes they want aren't that great, and the means they try to achieve that are very very bad. The mainstream part of democrats turned to the social part, and that caused this change.
My question for liberals here, who just don't understand why 4chan changed: Do you think what I've stated here is true? Why not? If yes then why the connection between the alt-right and leftist push is wrong?