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Totally not bullshit. Hospitals alone kill close to 100,000 Americans alone each year. https://www.propublica.org/article/how-many-die-from-medical-mistakes-in
by kenbaylor 9y ago
Totally not bullshit.
Hospitals alone kill close to 100,000 Americans alone each year. https://www.propublica.org/article/how-many-die-from-medical-mistakes-in-us-hospitals https://www.propublica.org/article/how-many-die-from-medical...
Chiropractors are good:
1) Personal experience. They have helped my spine recover multiple times, in record recovery time.
2) Modern medicine consists of prescribing drugs, or high risk surgeries. Paralysis for life is a real risk.
3) If you get a great one, they will add years of pain-free time for your life
Chiropractors are also bad:
a) There are some 'religious schools' founded by 'bodies for Christ' aka Maximized Living that make some interesting claims. Unfortunately these are becoming common
b) many new chiropractors have poor technique. This often goes back to the previous point.
c) Unless the person is really good don't let them mess with your neck. There is a growing link between neck manipulation and strokes, especially when 'fast techniques' are involved. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Deanna_Rothwell/publication/11997403_Chiropractic_manipulation_and_stroke_A_population-based_case-control_study/links/540d21960cf2d8daaacaefaa.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Deanna_Rothwell/publica...
TLDR;
This doesn't mean that Chiropractors are bad. There are many many great ones and it really works.
There are many quacks who drink the cool aid. They are mostly new graduates.
Modern medicine's approach to back and neck pain is utterly subpar and medieval. There are many quacks there too, and they kill a lot more every year.
And the medical community also disavowed Surgery as 'quackery' not too long ago: http://mentalfloss.com/article/66664/how-uneducated-butchers-and-barbers-became-todays-skilled-surgeons http://mentalfloss.com/article/66664/how-uneducated-butchers...
- awinder 9y agoI don’t know what the more common treatment paths are but im fairly sure that the first line treatment path from modern medicine is working with a physical therapist, not surgery.
- kenbaylor 9y agoDepends where you are located. First line for me was pain killers. Then injections of pain killers, then chymopapain. Then surgery. My doctors did not 'believe in' physical therapy by non-doctors.
- andreasgonewild 9y agoModern medicine; you realize that just means it's new, right? From personal experience I can almost guarantee that the physical therapist would be just as clue-less as the rest of the white-coats. Their main task isn't to solve problems, it's to generate profits; and you don't generate maximum profits by solving problems.
- E6300 9y ago> Hospitals alone kill close to 100,000 Americans alone each year. > 2) Modern medicine consists of prescribing drugs, or high risk surgeries. Paralysis for life is a real risk. This is reminiscent of the arguments used by creationists. "Creationism isn't bullshit! Look at all the flaws in evolution!" > 1) Personal experience. There's people who use homeopathy who swear by it. That doesn't make homeopathy any more legitimate.
- dnh44 9y agoNo but placebo is real and what's wrong with people trying to induce placebo to help themselves?
- E6300 9y agoPlacebos don't help. At best they provide temporary relief; on some people they don't even work. A placebo is like you car engine making a funny noise and the mechanic telling you to turn the stereo up so you won't hear it. Or, to make the analogy more appropriate, it's like the mechanic telling to come back twice a week so he'll turn the stereo on for you, while charging you $10 each time. Meanwhile the shop across the street charges $100 but actually takes a look at your engine.
- dnh44 9y agoIf you look into the placebo effect you'll see that you're wrong and that it's a real phenomena.
- E6300 9y agoI didn't say it's not a real phenomenon. I said it doesn't help.
- dnh44 9y agoHow can it be real if it doesn't help? Placebo does sometimes work which is why it's amazing and has people looking into the role of the brain in healing. In fact if placebo didn't work then it would be pointless to use it in clinical trials for new drugs.
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- na85 9y ago>Hospitals alone kill close to 100,000 Americans alone each year. Oh please. In any tech related topic there'd be a hundred people telling you that perfect is the enemy of the good. Why does this site that prides itself on logical and level-headed discussion always go full-whacko when it comes to healthcare?
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