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Are you referring to the section of the game where you use an x-ray to check for sex that doesn't match the passport? I don't think that's reasonable to classif

Are you referring to the section of the game where you use an x-ray to check for sex that doesn't match the passport? I don't think that's reasonable to classify as extreme, the US government exhibits the same strategies for identification, requiring proof of clinical treatment to get a sex change on license.

thebooktocome 9y ago
The game teaches you that people with unclear gender expression are de facto suspicious, should be invasively searched, and the authorities should be called to carry them off to the gulag. That counts as extreme in my book. My moral standards are independent of US govt policy. They are neither a paragon of privacy rights nor of trans rights.
- Laforet 9y ago
  Depiction != Endorsement. Are we going to require all future fictional portrayals of the Salem witch trials to feature token minority characters too because we need to hold people in another reality to the same standard of the ones we are in?
  - partisan 9y ago
    So minorities should only be cast when the subject matter relates specifically to them? I don't think that would leave them with many potential roles. There are so few meaningful roles for minorities as it is. Surely that isn't the right answer.
    - reactor4 9y ago
      but it is
    - icebraining 9y ago
      So minorities should only be cast when the subject matter relates specifically to them? Nobody said that.
- zxcmx 9y ago
  I think you are taking at face value what is actually quite a subversive game. I don't know if you played it but I took away the opposite message (that states which act this way are evil).
- kbenson 9y ago
  If you think the game is about teaching you what you should do, then you played a very different game than me. There are times when letting people learn why something is bad through experience (even watered down as much as through a video game) is much more effective than just telling them it's bad, for many reasons.
- fweespeech 9y ago
  You are the villain in Papers Please. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PunchClockVillain http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PunchClockVillain http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/PunchClockVillain/VideoGames http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/PunchClockVillain/Vide... ^ that kind
- ClassyJacket 9y ago
  If you believe that Papers Please is implying that what you do in the game is what you should do in real life then you misinterpreted the creator's intentions to an absurdly extreme degree which I find hard to believe. Do you believe that MASH teaches you that war is overall positive? Was your takeaway from Requiem for a Dream that injecting heroin is a good idea?

thebooktocome 9y ago

The game teaches you that people with unclear gender expression are de facto suspicious, should be invasively searched, and the authorities should be called to carry them off to the gulag. That counts as extreme in my book. My moral standards are independent of US govt policy. They are neither a paragon of privacy rights nor of trans rights.

Laforet 9y ago
Depiction != Endorsement. Are we going to require all future fictional portrayals of the Salem witch trials to feature token minority characters too because we need to hold people in another reality to the same standard of the ones we are in?
- partisan 9y ago
  So minorities should only be cast when the subject matter relates specifically to them? I don't think that would leave them with many potential roles. There are so few meaningful roles for minorities as it is. Surely that isn't the right answer.
  - reactor4 9y ago
    but it is
  - icebraining 9y ago
    So minorities should only be cast when the subject matter relates specifically to them? Nobody said that.
zxcmx 9y ago
I think you are taking at face value what is actually quite a subversive game. I don't know if you played it but I took away the opposite message (that states which act this way are evil).
kbenson 9y ago
If you think the game is about teaching you what you should do, then you played a very different game than me. There are times when letting people learn why something is bad through experience (even watered down as much as through a video game) is much more effective than just telling them it's bad, for many reasons.
fweespeech 9y ago
You are the villain in Papers Please. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PunchClockVillain http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PunchClockVillain http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/PunchClockVillain/VideoGames http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/PunchClockVillain/Vide... ^ that kind
ClassyJacket 9y ago
If you believe that Papers Please is implying that what you do in the game is what you should do in real life then you misinterpreted the creator's intentions to an absurdly extreme degree which I find hard to believe. Do you believe that MASH teaches you that war is overall positive? Was your takeaway from Requiem for a Dream that injecting heroin is a good idea?