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Back when I was depressed modal realism cured me of any suicidality. How can one possibly think the suffering, loneliness and utter pointlessness of life can be
by Moshe_Silnorin 9y ago
Back when I was depressed modal realism cured me of any suicidality. How can one possibly think the suffering, loneliness and utter pointlessness of life can be preferable to the sweet oblivion of non-existence? My answer is non-existence may indeed be preferable to life but it’s not at all clear that non-existence exists. What the Everett interpretation, Egan's Dust theory, the mere fact that the mind is finite and the universe is infinite (and finite patters recur in infinity an infinite amount of times) forces me to consider is the prospect that any attempt to commit suicide, no matter how thorough, could result in a subjective experience of the consequences of a failed suicide attempt in which "I" am unable to escape, even through suicide. The idea that the universe owes you nothing, not even nonexistence, was what killed any suicidality in me. Odd that a depressing thought would work so well when appeals to optimism did not, but makes a sort of sense considering how depressed people think.
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- subru 9y agoThe points that you bring up are precisely why I wish to self terminate, Yet our old saw the very reason why I am unable to complete the job. What a miserable existence to be stuck between the unending desire to die and the knowledge that death could actually be an infinitely worse fate. They're also the basis for why I rationalize against procreation, at least for myself
- KGIII 9y agoI am not sure if this helps, but we don't actually know if the universe is infinite or finite. It is an unknown.
- spyhi 9y agoWell, now you've gone and killed him.
- Moshe_Silnorin 9y agoSure. But we have to accord it a pretty high probability, at least 50%. So this uncertainty doesn't really effect much.
- jl6 9y agoI've always assigned it pretty low probability on the basis that we have no examples of infinite objects existing.