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For which you'll ordinarily use the pre-installed browser to grab the installer. It's not clear to me why using IE11 to do that versus using Edge is an actual w

by ovao 9y ago

For which you'll ordinarily use the pre-installed browser to grab the installer. It's not clear to me why using IE11 to do that versus using Edge is an actual win.

CamperBob2 9y ago
How about endless nags from the OS about how you're wasting battery power running that boring old Firefox, and how you really should upgrade to the latest Edge experience for whiter teeth, better gas mileage, and more bedroom endurance? Microsoft brought every last bit of this criticism on themselves.
- drdaeman 9y ago
  Endless? I think I saw it only once. Said "nope" and it was gone. The whole marketing mess still sucks (they sure try their chances every once in a while), but it's not that bad - and at least it's different every time (not sure if this is good or bad, though). I think the only repeated warnings I even saw with W10 were from Windows Defender discontent with me telling that I don't want automated uploads of whatever it thinks it should.
- Pica_soO 9y ago
  I love also how the settings amnesia sets in with every update- if this "forgetfulness" sets in on something that Microsoft could benefit from. Throwing away User Works- wasn't that as the Ultimate Insult to the User in some legendary book? Same goes for the registry rip, you have to redo to undo- "repairs" on the Cortana...
na85 9y ago
The actual win is avoiding bloatware like Cortana
throwaway2048 9y ago
why is having edge present an actual win.
- ovao 9y ago
  I'm not sure I understand the question.
  - stan_rogers 9y ago
    Edge comes along with other crap, not because it needs to, but because that's the way MS arranges it. If it were just Edge-versus-IE, it wouldn't matter at all if a single use to grab another browser is the end game anyway. But if getting Edge means getting all of the other unwanted stuff, then, yes, IE is a win.
coldtea 9y ago
The point made is that the parent commenters don't care about having Edge over IE11, because they're just gonna use the default browser ONCE to install Chrome or Firefox anyway -- not that IE11 is better than Edge to download Chrome/FF... Isn't it obvious?

by ovao 9y ago

For which you'll ordinarily use the pre-installed browser to grab the installer. It's not clear to me why using IE11 to do that versus using Edge is an actual win.

CamperBob2 9y ago

How about endless nags from the OS about how you're wasting battery power running that boring old Firefox, and how you really should upgrade to the latest Edge experience for whiter teeth, better gas mileage, and more bedroom endurance? Microsoft brought every last bit of this criticism on themselves.

drdaeman 9y ago
Endless? I think I saw it only once. Said "nope" and it was gone. The whole marketing mess still sucks (they sure try their chances every once in a while), but it's not that bad - and at least it's different every time (not sure if this is good or bad, though). I think the only repeated warnings I even saw with W10 were from Windows Defender discontent with me telling that I don't want automated uploads of whatever it thinks it should.
Pica_soO 9y ago
I love also how the settings amnesia sets in with every update- if this "forgetfulness" sets in on something that Microsoft could benefit from. Throwing away User Works- wasn't that as the Ultimate Insult to the User in some legendary book? Same goes for the registry rip, you have to redo to undo- "repairs" on the Cortana...

na85 9y ago

The actual win is avoiding bloatware like Cortana

throwaway2048 9y ago

why is having edge present an actual win.

ovao 9y ago
I'm not sure I understand the question.
- stan_rogers 9y ago
  Edge comes along with other crap, not because it needs to, but because that's the way MS arranges it. If it were just Edge-versus-IE, it wouldn't matter at all if a single use to grab another browser is the end game anyway. But if getting Edge means getting all of the other unwanted stuff, then, yes, IE is a win.

coldtea 9y ago

The point made is that the parent commenters don't care about having Edge over IE11, because they're just gonna use the default browser ONCE to install Chrome or Firefox anyway -- not that IE11 is better than Edge to download Chrome/FF... Isn't it obvious?