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It's also a good reminder that Jobs, for all the posthumous praise he gets, made some rather stupid business blunders during his tenures at Apple. Apple can be

It's also a good reminder that Jobs, for all the posthumous praise he gets, made some rather stupid business blunders during his tenures at Apple. Apple can be aggressive about its tech today (such as Lightning and Thunderbolt; anyone know what they charge for those?), but back then they were much more of a niche player.

Tloewald 9y ago
Thunderbolt is Intel AFAIK. (Correction: apparently Intel made some claims but Apple owns it.) My guess is Intel probably would have backed USB over Firewire regardless since it had a stake in USB. The irony is, USB would probably have failed without Apple. The fact is that Intel has repeatedly chosen its own technology to promote, and until recently it had the market power to force everyone else to follow suit.
- baobrain 9y ago
  > (Correction: apparently Intel made some claims but Apple owns it.) This doesn't seem to be correct. While I can't find anything with a simple search, the thunderbolt technology website is copyrighted by Intel, and Wikipedia directly attributes the development to Intel. Iirc apple was mostly a first adapter to thunderbolt.
  - GeekyBear 9y ago
    At the time of the first technology demos, the story was that Apple and Intel jointly developed it. https://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple-dictated-light-peak-creation-to-intel-could-be/ https://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple-dictated...
megablast 9y ago
> It's also a good reminder that Jobs, for all the posthumous praise he gets, made some rather stupid business blunders during his tenures at Apple. Did anyone say that Jobs never made any blunders? Does anyone think that there it any person alive that didn't make blunders?
- devwastaken 9y ago
  No one would say 'no' to that, but at the same time people would praise jobs anyways. "See, he made firewire, which made intel make USB 2.0. He knew exactly what he was doing." etc, etc.

Tloewald 9y ago

Thunderbolt is Intel AFAIK. (Correction: apparently Intel made some claims but Apple owns it.) My guess is Intel probably would have backed USB over Firewire regardless since it had a stake in USB. The irony is, USB would probably have failed without Apple. The fact is that Intel has repeatedly chosen its own technology to promote, and until recently it had the market power to force everyone else to follow suit.

baobrain 9y ago
> (Correction: apparently Intel made some claims but Apple owns it.) This doesn't seem to be correct. While I can't find anything with a simple search, the thunderbolt technology website is copyrighted by Intel, and Wikipedia directly attributes the development to Intel. Iirc apple was mostly a first adapter to thunderbolt.
- GeekyBear 9y ago
  At the time of the first technology demos, the story was that Apple and Intel jointly developed it. https://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple-dictated-light-peak-creation-to-intel-could-be/ https://www.engadget.com/2009/09/26/exclusive-apple-dictated...

megablast 9y ago

> It's also a good reminder that Jobs, for all the posthumous praise he gets, made some rather stupid business blunders during his tenures at Apple. Did anyone say that Jobs never made any blunders? Does anyone think that there it any person alive that didn't make blunders?

devwastaken 9y ago
No one would say 'no' to that, but at the same time people would praise jobs anyways. "See, he made firewire, which made intel make USB 2.0. He knew exactly what he was doing." etc, etc.