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Societies don't get wealthy by consuming. They do by producing. As a rule, if something is taxed there will be less of it. High marginal taxes decreases high va

by laut 16y ago

Societies don't get wealthy by consuming. They do by producing. As a rule, if something is taxed there will be less of it. High marginal taxes decreases high value work. It is a terrible idea. Immoral too.

rortian 16y ago
>Immoral too. Classic. Moral claims don't get you too far. I could start going on about gentiles eating shellfish, but I'm one of those gentiles. >They do by producing Sometimes. These things are complicated. But if you've already got it figured out, no need to discuss it I guess.
- laut 16y ago
  > Classic. Moral claims don't get you too far. I think it's immoral to steal and kill etc., but that won't get me far arguing with you I guess? > These things are complicated. But if you've already got it figured out, no need to discuss it I guess. It's not just something I have figured out, there are economists that have thought about it. If you can explain how societies get wealthy by consuming more and producing less I would like to know.
  - rortian 16y ago
    Bringing murder up to justify a moral scheme that few subscribe to is a bit silly. Everyone finds murder wrong, in most circumstances, hardly everyone finds taxing the rich immoral. These things are complicated. Wealth can be generated in a variety to ways. The Phoenicians were quite wealthy for their time for establishing a trade network in the Mediterranean. Apple produces virtually nothing (okay they make software but lets pretend for a minute that we are talking about the hardware. People do rave about the aesthetics of the devices). However, they have plenty of 'wealth' to capture than the manufacturers do for their charging price. They having marketing savvy and they are able to get large numbers of people excited about what they think of. Facilitating transactions and applying knowledge are not exactly producing but doing these tasks can provide a decent living. If you want to extend 'producing' to mean anything that makes people money, your statement could be a truism but it seems you are using produce in a more traditional sense.

by laut 16y ago

rortian 16y ago

>Immoral too. Classic. Moral claims don't get you too far. I could start going on about gentiles eating shellfish, but I'm one of those gentiles. >They do by producing Sometimes. These things are complicated. But if you've already got it figured out, no need to discuss it I guess.

laut 16y ago
> Classic. Moral claims don't get you too far. I think it's immoral to steal and kill etc., but that won't get me far arguing with you I guess? > These things are complicated. But if you've already got it figured out, no need to discuss it I guess. It's not just something I have figured out, there are economists that have thought about it. If you can explain how societies get wealthy by consuming more and producing less I would like to know.
- rortian 16y ago
  Bringing murder up to justify a moral scheme that few subscribe to is a bit silly. Everyone finds murder wrong, in most circumstances, hardly everyone finds taxing the rich immoral. These things are complicated. Wealth can be generated in a variety to ways. The Phoenicians were quite wealthy for their time for establishing a trade network in the Mediterranean. Apple produces virtually nothing (okay they make software but lets pretend for a minute that we are talking about the hardware. People do rave about the aesthetics of the devices). However, they have plenty of 'wealth' to capture than the manufacturers do for their charging price. They having marketing savvy and they are able to get large numbers of people excited about what they think of. Facilitating transactions and applying knowledge are not exactly producing but doing these tasks can provide a decent living. If you want to extend 'producing' to mean anything that makes people money, your statement could be a truism but it seems you are using produce in a more traditional sense.