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>But the critical part of all this is hanging up within 6 seconds. This is the one thing that hurts the telco knowingly supporting this You should explain why
by kharms 9y ago
>But the critical part of all this is hanging up within 6 seconds. This is the one thing that hurts the telco knowingly supporting this
You should explain why that number is critical, what happens before, what happens after.
- notyourday 9y agoIt is caused by the 6 second billing.
- losteverything 9y agoIf call is cell to cell and no direct access or egress to landline does the 6 second still apply? All kinds or rules here https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0198-telemarketing-sales-rule https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0198-telemarketing-sal...
- omginternets 9y agoCould you elaborate?
- jessaustin 9y agoIt's not clear why the phone company with lots of 5-second-billed-as-6-second calls will suffer while the one with lots of 7-second-billed-as-12 will prosper?
- MichaelGG 9y agoTelcos judge your traffic quality by several metrics including short call percentage, usually cut off at 6 seconds. Too many calls being shorter than this, and they'll add big surcharges. The robodialers are so stupid, though. They don't want to pay for the second 6 seconds, and will hang up quickly. So intermediary companies keep the calls open to keep their stats good, then charge the dialer guys more. Telecom is filled with actors that can't handle basic algebra. Source: I've run billions of calls as a VoIP network and consulted for folks doing dialer.
- dennisgorelik 9y agoHow can robocaller keep the call running if party on another end ended the call?
- MichaelGG 9y agoThat was my question! The issue is that the robocaller is hanging up early, because they get billed on 6 second intervals. But they pay so much more for their bad traffic that it's profitable to absorb a 6 second interval on the intermediaries end, just to avoid the short-call penalties. Yes, if they'd hold the call open themselves, instead of the middle-man, they'd get lower prices overall. I see things like this in telecom too much. Where people are mathematically going to lose, guaranteed, but prefer a certain billing because it's easier to understand, or looks cheaper. While this is understandable for an SMB that isn't in the telecom business, I've seen big names take these same deals. And I've seen the other end: they 100% are losing a few % in doing so.