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I've been looking for information about Ulrich for these past few minutes trying to build a draft document and I'm starting to put together the reasons why Ulri
by ZephyrP 9y ago
I've been looking for information about Ulrich for these past few minutes trying to build a draft document and I'm starting to put together the reasons why Ulrich will not have a page soon...
Ulrich has accomplished so much as a programmer, more than nearly any programmer ever will. If we measured contributions objectively, he'd definitely be one of those "1% of programmers who produce 95% of software that is used by more than 1000 people". In fact, I just grepped for 'Ulrich Drepper' on my own personal computer and I've got pages-upon-pages of results (at least 2kloc) of bylines, commits, man pages and tiny thank you notes with only one recipient (Ulrich) deep in places you expect and then many you don't: the Android SDK, Coreutils, Wine project.
When you do a bit of research about him (of the variety Wikipedia would accept), there's a different story. There are no awards for Ulrich Drepper, there are no 'real' publications outside of open source that are describing what he does, there are no lively pieces of evidence that the world recognizes his contributions, there most certainly are no fanclubs.
What does emerge is a consistent message that the big players of free software wont tolerate him or his software (along with thousands of 'critiques' of his leadership style). Looking over this you see a pattern that emerges where an issue is brought up on a mailing list by people who are trying to help him or at the very least are neutral towards him and he cuts them down, insults them, belittles them for absolutely no reason whatsoever ("I have to let them know that they are dumb so they don't write software that hurts the world"). It's so comically obvious that he doesn't actually believe he's making "software" or "the world" any better while he's doing this.
I'm not sure why, but reading about Ulrich Drepper has put the broader world of software in perspective. I've never thought about the 'legitimacy' of Linus Torvald's (and others) management style. I have even been known to think that "asshole bosses get shit done". I had never seen what comes out for the projects that aren't Linux. The smaller & more mundane pieces of software whose petty tyrant isn't tolerated for long.
My initial feeling was that Ulrich Drepper deserves a Wikipedia page, but the evidence is that the deletionist might be right. Ulrich Drepper is not widely recognized because he has let his pride, his hubris and his attachment to criticism condemn him to a life of loneliness and anonymity with no indications that he wants either.
- delhanty 9y agoI agree with nearly all of that except the last paragraph: >My initial feeling was that Ulrich Drepper deserves a Wikipedia page, but the evidence is that the deletionist might be right. Should niceness/sociablity/etc be a criteria for notability and hence "deserving" a Wikipedia page? I'd argue that it should not. Linus Torvalds, Stephen Wolfram, Steve Jobs - none of them seem particularly nice - but all have achieved great things - and hence they are notable. The difference from the case of Ulrich Drepper, is that those achievements are documented in a form that Wikipedia will accept as evidence for notability.