4 ms·

Google Cloud maybe is superior in the pricing of compute, but it is actually more expensive on network egress traffic, object storage and block storage. I rece

Google Cloud maybe is superior in the pricing of compute, but it is actually more expensive on network egress traffic, object storage and block storage. I recently created a simple tool (http://theprice.cloud/ http://theprice.cloud/) to compare egress traffic, object storage, and block storage cost among AWS, Google Cloud and Azure. It seems like Googel Cloud is the most expensive one in egress traffic and object storage.

nodesocket 9y ago
Except that Google Cloud cross zone and cross region (US) prices are much less than AWS. Ingress Free Egress inner-zone Free Egress cross-zone in the same region $0.01 Egress cross-region within the US $0.01 See: https://blog.elasticbyte.net/comparing-bandwidth-prices-and-network-latency-between-google-compute-zones-and-regions/ https://blog.elasticbyte.net/comparing-bandwidth-prices-and-...
- rpedela 9y ago
  They seem pretty comparable to me? Cross-region is $0.02, inner-zone is free, and cross-zone is free or $0.01. https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/ https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/
  - nodesocket 9y ago
    I could have sworn AWS prices cross-zone used to be higher maybe this changed recently. Or... I was just wrong. :-)
    - boulos 9y ago
      Don't feel bad, I'd forgotten this one: "Using a public or Elastic IPv4 address => $0.01 per GB". I'm sad we still don't have a proper split horizon DNS to encourage internal IP usage, but I can't imagine charging for it in the same zone.
  - ahazred8ta 9y ago
    TL;DR: Starting at - $3.69/GB/mo (US), US$4.11/GB/mo (Ireland), assuming reserved instances with 1yr All Upfront pricing, not counting the really huge xlarge+SSD instances.
- jacquesm 9y ago
  Which is its own form of complexity. All these cloud offerings are priced so complex you can pretty much expect some nasty gotcha unless you spend an inordinate amount of time modeling your workload and traffic patterns. And if something changes you can do it all over again.
boulos 9y ago
Our egress pricing (from all sources) is certainly higher because we operate a private backbone rather than just dumping your packets straight onto the internet. Your site seems to be hugged to death (so I can't see it), but there are lots of gotchas with S3 pricing (like rounding up file sizes with Infrequent Access and Glacier) that in our experience means our customers come out ahead. Glacier and Coldline also aren't really comparable in the sense that GCS always responds within milliseconds. We only economics to discourage frequent access from Coldline, not delays. As above, our egress is more expensive because it's better (we hear you though if your response is "I don't care! Give me cheaper instead, then!"). Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud.
- rpedela 9y ago
  AWS also has their own backbone. Starting at about 7 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqPfQgatMko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqPfQgatMko
  - vgt 9y ago
    Google's backbone is a little bit different. Google Cloud shares this backbone with Youtube, Maps, and the rest. Not only are there DC-to-DC cables, our backbone extends to a vast number of Edge POPS (more than AWS and Azure combined), detailed at [0]. Our DC-to-DC network is pretty great too, allowing things like Spanner to exist (minimizing P in CAP etc) at [1]. Here's what it means for you in practice: - Google's Load Balancer supports a single global anycast endpoint. - When your packet tries to hit Google network, it hits the nearest POP, which acts as an on-ramp to the network and traverses only Google network, not touching public. - Similarly, when data is en route to a customer, Google network will take it all the way to the nearest DC or POP on its private backbone. - Google by default gives you a global software-defined VPC. No need to create VPN tunnels between zones/regions/etc. (work at G) [0] https://peering.google.com/#/infrastructure https://peering.google.com/#/infrastructure [1] https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/02/inside-Cloud-Spanner-and-the-CAP-Theorem.html https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/02/inside-Cloud-Sp...
    - 9y ago
zjfroot 9y ago
WOW, this is my first time getting "slashdotted". Very surprised to see the enthusiasm. The original "Show HN" is here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14582181 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14582181, and you are welcomed to continue the discussion there
- chuckdries 9y ago
  Lol I'm new, what's getting "slash dotted?"
  - joshmn 9y ago
    > When an internet server or item is shut down, canceled, closed or crashes because of the instant popularity from a community. But if you're wondering what the word comes from, slashdot.org

nodesocket 9y ago

Except that Google Cloud cross zone and cross region (US) prices are much less than AWS. Ingress Free Egress inner-zone Free Egress cross-zone in the same region $0.01 Egress cross-region within the US $0.01 See: https://blog.elasticbyte.net/comparing-bandwidth-prices-and-network-latency-between-google-compute-zones-and-regions/ https://blog.elasticbyte.net/comparing-bandwidth-prices-and-...

rpedela 9y ago
They seem pretty comparable to me? Cross-region is $0.02, inner-zone is free, and cross-zone is free or $0.01. https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/ https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/
- nodesocket 9y ago
  I could have sworn AWS prices cross-zone used to be higher maybe this changed recently. Or... I was just wrong. :-)
  - boulos 9y ago
    Don't feel bad, I'd forgotten this one: "Using a public or Elastic IPv4 address => $0.01 per GB". I'm sad we still don't have a proper split horizon DNS to encourage internal IP usage, but I can't imagine charging for it in the same zone.
- ahazred8ta 9y ago
  TL;DR: Starting at - $3.69/GB/mo (US), US$4.11/GB/mo (Ireland), assuming reserved instances with 1yr All Upfront pricing, not counting the really huge xlarge+SSD instances.
jacquesm 9y ago
Which is its own form of complexity. All these cloud offerings are priced so complex you can pretty much expect some nasty gotcha unless you spend an inordinate amount of time modeling your workload and traffic patterns. And if something changes you can do it all over again.

boulos 9y ago

Our egress pricing (from all sources) is certainly higher because we operate a private backbone rather than just dumping your packets straight onto the internet. Your site seems to be hugged to death (so I can't see it), but there are lots of gotchas with S3 pricing (like rounding up file sizes with Infrequent Access and Glacier) that in our experience means our customers come out ahead. Glacier and Coldline also aren't really comparable in the sense that GCS always responds within milliseconds. We only economics to discourage frequent access from Coldline, not delays. As above, our egress is more expensive because it's better (we hear you though if your response is "I don't care! Give me cheaper instead, then!"). Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud.

rpedela 9y ago
AWS also has their own backbone. Starting at about 7 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqPfQgatMko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqPfQgatMko
- vgt 9y ago
  Google's backbone is a little bit different. Google Cloud shares this backbone with Youtube, Maps, and the rest. Not only are there DC-to-DC cables, our backbone extends to a vast number of Edge POPS (more than AWS and Azure combined), detailed at [0]. Our DC-to-DC network is pretty great too, allowing things like Spanner to exist (minimizing P in CAP etc) at [1]. Here's what it means for you in practice: - Google's Load Balancer supports a single global anycast endpoint. - When your packet tries to hit Google network, it hits the nearest POP, which acts as an on-ramp to the network and traverses only Google network, not touching public. - Similarly, when data is en route to a customer, Google network will take it all the way to the nearest DC or POP on its private backbone. - Google by default gives you a global software-defined VPC. No need to create VPN tunnels between zones/regions/etc. (work at G) [0] https://peering.google.com/#/infrastructure https://peering.google.com/#/infrastructure [1] https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/02/inside-Cloud-Spanner-and-the-CAP-Theorem.html https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/02/inside-Cloud-Sp...
  - 9y ago

zjfroot 9y ago

WOW, this is my first time getting "slashdotted". Very surprised to see the enthusiasm. The original "Show HN" is here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14582181 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14582181, and you are welcomed to continue the discussion there

chuckdries 9y ago
Lol I'm new, what's getting "slash dotted?"
- joshmn 9y ago
  > When an internet server or item is shut down, canceled, closed or crashes because of the instant popularity from a community. But if you're wondering what the word comes from, slashdot.org