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Oh man this comment is perfect. I often get into arguments with my girlfriend because she says I think about money too much and that money isn't everything. Tha

by Swizec 9y ago

Oh man this comment is perfect. I often get into arguments with my girlfriend because she says I think about money too much and that money isn't everything. That you should focus on living life and having fun. Money is everything. Without money you can't do any of that living life stuff. But only someone who's experienced not having any can understand that.

mars4rp 9y ago
Thank you for this comment, you shed some light on my relationship!
lemmings19 9y ago
Certainly if you live in a city, money is everything. Without it, you are homeless and wondering where you'll sleep next or what you'll eat. Where to shower, how you'll find work, get your hair cut, and so on. All of these things require money to obtain, more or less. The countryside might be a different story, if you're willing to work wherever you can find it. Room and board on a farm perhaps; that costs nothing if you are willing to work. Tent in a forest; this costs nothing, as anyone can scrape together a tent and sleeping bag. Cities have no room for these things. A bare minimum amount of money can be everything. Once you can feed and house yourself, why not focus on life and making the best of it? I think money is everything _until_ you can sustain the bare minimum. After that... if you still think money is everything, you have lost sight of the rest of your life. That or you have kids.
- kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
  But how many of the people who say money isn't everything do so from their self-made hut in a farm living off of food they have grown / killed themselves etc.? I don't mean to make an ad hominem, but I think it's fair to say that lofty pronouncements such as how much money does or does not matter from people who have basically never actually had to experience extreme poverty sound a little hollow.
- Swizec 9y ago
  > After that... if you still think money is everything, you have lost sight of the rest of your life. I think a large part of it is that I've spent the first 25 or so years of my life living hand to mouth. As such I'm probably never going to get used to the idea that you can ever have "enough" money. What if something happens? Is your stash really big enough to tie you over? What if it isn't? What if ... basically I think that once you're in a money-tight situation for a prolonged period, especially if it was when you were growing up, that leaves a mark that's never going to go away. As the anecdote attributed to different rich people says: "Yep, my son tips more than I do. He's the son of a millionaire, I'm the son of a <insert poor-ish profession>" Maybe I hit a double whammy as well. My girlfriend's parents emigrated to the US from a relatively well-off French background. It's not all roses of course, but to my understanding they were never broke broke. Her grandma, for instance, has an estate that's been in the family for 300 years. I emigrated to the US from a single-parent background in a postsocialist country. My maternal grandparents went bankrupt when my mum was 15 or so, my dad's grandparents died by the time he was 5. Great grandparents' assets were mostly wiped out during WW2 (partially effect of war, partially socialist redistribution of wealth). So really I have about 4 generations worth of baggage about "Fuck we're broke!". There's no way that doesn't have an effect on how I think.
- KGIII 9y ago
  I believe the implication is that it is not everything, but that it is still something. They aren't saying that money is nothing, just that it is not the only thing.
- _audakel 9y ago
  I love that, money is everything until you have the bare minimum. I just graduated and moved across country for a new job and for the past few years have been incredibly worried about money constantly. I worried that the rest of my life I would be completely obsessed about having enough money. Now that I'm starting to get some paychecks the sense of relief of not having to worry if I'm going to go hungry/not make rent etc is incredible
teachrdan 9y ago
To quote a great philosopher, "Money isn't everything. Not having money is everything." There's a lot to be said for your side of the argument as well as hers.
- vijucat 9y ago
  A quote from an acquaintance: "Money isn't everything. I'd tell you more about it, but my phone's account balance has almost run out, so I need to cut the call" /s.
- BanBait 9y ago
  College Dropout was still the best album of all time.
- sergiotapia 9y ago
  It was Yeezy who said: "Whether you broke or rich you gotta get this Havin' money's not everything, not havin' it is" https://genius.com/945345 https://genius.com/945345

by Swizec 9y ago

mars4rp 9y ago

Thank you for this comment, you shed some light on my relationship!

lemmings19 9y ago

Certainly if you live in a city, money is everything. Without it, you are homeless and wondering where you'll sleep next or what you'll eat. Where to shower, how you'll find work, get your hair cut, and so on. All of these things require money to obtain, more or less. The countryside might be a different story, if you're willing to work wherever you can find it. Room and board on a farm perhaps; that costs nothing if you are willing to work. Tent in a forest; this costs nothing, as anyone can scrape together a tent and sleeping bag. Cities have no room for these things. A bare minimum amount of money can be everything. Once you can feed and house yourself, why not focus on life and making the best of it? I think money is everything _until_ you can sustain the bare minimum. After that... if you still think money is everything, you have lost sight of the rest of your life. That or you have kids.

kinkrtyavimoodh 9y ago
But how many of the people who say money isn't everything do so from their self-made hut in a farm living off of food they have grown / killed themselves etc.? I don't mean to make an ad hominem, but I think it's fair to say that lofty pronouncements such as how much money does or does not matter from people who have basically never actually had to experience extreme poverty sound a little hollow.
Swizec 9y ago
> After that... if you still think money is everything, you have lost sight of the rest of your life. I think a large part of it is that I've spent the first 25 or so years of my life living hand to mouth. As such I'm probably never going to get used to the idea that you can ever have "enough" money. What if something happens? Is your stash really big enough to tie you over? What if it isn't? What if ... basically I think that once you're in a money-tight situation for a prolonged period, especially if it was when you were growing up, that leaves a mark that's never going to go away. As the anecdote attributed to different rich people says: "Yep, my son tips more than I do. He's the son of a millionaire, I'm the son of a <insert poor-ish profession>" Maybe I hit a double whammy as well. My girlfriend's parents emigrated to the US from a relatively well-off French background. It's not all roses of course, but to my understanding they were never broke broke. Her grandma, for instance, has an estate that's been in the family for 300 years. I emigrated to the US from a single-parent background in a postsocialist country. My maternal grandparents went bankrupt when my mum was 15 or so, my dad's grandparents died by the time he was 5. Great grandparents' assets were mostly wiped out during WW2 (partially effect of war, partially socialist redistribution of wealth). So really I have about 4 generations worth of baggage about "Fuck we're broke!". There's no way that doesn't have an effect on how I think.
KGIII 9y ago
I believe the implication is that it is not everything, but that it is still something. They aren't saying that money is nothing, just that it is not the only thing.
_audakel 9y ago
I love that, money is everything until you have the bare minimum. I just graduated and moved across country for a new job and for the past few years have been incredibly worried about money constantly. I worried that the rest of my life I would be completely obsessed about having enough money. Now that I'm starting to get some paychecks the sense of relief of not having to worry if I'm going to go hungry/not make rent etc is incredible

teachrdan 9y ago

To quote a great philosopher, "Money isn't everything. Not having money is everything." There's a lot to be said for your side of the argument as well as hers.

vijucat 9y ago
A quote from an acquaintance: "Money isn't everything. I'd tell you more about it, but my phone's account balance has almost run out, so I need to cut the call" /s.
BanBait 9y ago
College Dropout was still the best album of all time.
sergiotapia 9y ago
It was Yeezy who said: "Whether you broke or rich you gotta get this Havin' money's not everything, not havin' it is" https://genius.com/945345 https://genius.com/945345