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At some point though, if major world powers never go to war with each other, then the F35 can't really fail insofar as it will never actually see combat. It re

by dmoy 9y ago

At some point though, if major world powers never go to war with each other, then the F35 can't really fail insofar as it will never actually see combat. It reminds me of the sci fi novels Dread Empire's Fall, in which the galactic civilization's ship fleet has never fought a battle in thousands of years, so nobody can actually know how to do it, and they don't know if a certain tactic, ship, etc is really a failure or not.

rm_-rf_slash 9y ago
Historical anecdote: at the start of the U.S. Civil War, only two sitting Union generals had ever seen combat (back in the Mexican-American War 20 years back), and the top general had gotten so fat by then he couldn't even ride a horse.
- somecontext 9y ago
  For some context, the document http://www.history.army.mil/html/books/075/75-1/CMH_Pub_75-1.pdf http://www.history.army.mil/html/books/075/75-1/CMH_Pub_75-1... indicates on page 50 that in December 1860, "on the Eve of War", the army had a total strength of 18k men, of which 1k were commissioned officers, of which four were generals. A different source ("Armies South, Armies North" by Alan Axelrod, also author of the more compellingly-named "Generals South, Generals North") provides more detail, including names: Winfield Scott, William Harney, David Twiggs, and John Wool. This and other sources also include Joseph Johnston, then quartermaster general of the US Army, as a fifth general. There were also two more brevetted generals: Albert Johnston (no relation to Joseph) and Newman Clarke. Maj. Gen. Winfield Scott (the commanding general of the US Army) was 74 years old and indeed unable to ride a horse. However, all seven of the generals had seen combat. In particular, four served in the War of 1812, all served in the Mexican-American War, and all served in the Indian Wars. With the exception of Joseph Johnston, all of them even served in war as generals (at least brevet, but usually full).

by dmoy 9y ago

rm_-rf_slash 9y ago

Historical anecdote: at the start of the U.S. Civil War, only two sitting Union generals had ever seen combat (back in the Mexican-American War 20 years back), and the top general had gotten so fat by then he couldn't even ride a horse.

somecontext 9y ago
For some context, the document http://www.history.army.mil/html/books/075/75-1/CMH_Pub_75-1.pdf http://www.history.army.mil/html/books/075/75-1/CMH_Pub_75-1... indicates on page 50 that in December 1860, "on the Eve of War", the army had a total strength of 18k men, of which 1k were commissioned officers, of which four were generals. A different source ("Armies South, Armies North" by Alan Axelrod, also author of the more compellingly-named "Generals South, Generals North") provides more detail, including names: Winfield Scott, William Harney, David Twiggs, and John Wool. This and other sources also include Joseph Johnston, then quartermaster general of the US Army, as a fifth general. There were also two more brevetted generals: Albert Johnston (no relation to Joseph) and Newman Clarke. Maj. Gen. Winfield Scott (the commanding general of the US Army) was 74 years old and indeed unable to ride a horse. However, all seven of the generals had seen combat. In particular, four served in the War of 1812, all served in the Mexican-American War, and all served in the Indian Wars. With the exception of Joseph Johnston, all of them even served in war as generals (at least brevet, but usually full).