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I would rather pay and do not share anything with Google (or for that matter all of Google's partners who can purchase our data)

ams6110 9y ago
There are many options to pay for email, fastmail just for one. Do you use one of them?
- emodendroket 9y ago
  Google isn't just an e-mail service, really.
  - thomasfoster96 9y ago
    But… you don’t really have to use Gmail to use most of Google’s other products, just as you don’t really have to use (actively) Google+ to use other Google products either.
    - emodendroket 9y ago
      But imagine you use an Android phone, for instance. There's a whole bunch of integrated stuff that works well together that wouldn't if you had a Google account and then kept your e-mail somewhere else. It's not really a 1:1 comparison.
    - StreamBright 9y ago
      Unfortunately no. You are going to be tracked whereever you go and it has GA. The reason why Google can stop reading your emails is because they have a global network now that can track you better.
- StreamBright 9y ago
  And how exactly will I escape Google's data collection when Fastmail uses GA for analytics? ....script type="text/javascript" src="/static/scripts/ga.js....
  - jkaunisv1 9y ago
    Run a broad-spectrum blocker like uBlock Origin? Access your fastmail from an interface other than their web interface?
    - StreamBright 9y ago
      Ok so there is more involved than just use Fastmail, as it was suggested. Thanks for confirming.
      - dabernathy89 9y ago
        > many options to pay for email, fastmail just for one
  - chrismorgan 9y ago
    That’s the marketing site; the actual app where you read your email definitely doesn’t have Google Analytics.
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EGreg 9y ago
You can, it's called Google Apps for Business.
- mojowo11 9y ago
  Not to be pedantic, but it's called "G Suite" nowadays.
euyyn 9y ago
> all of Google's partners who can purchase our data I'm pretty sure that's the empty set.

ams6110 9y ago

There are many options to pay for email, fastmail just for one. Do you use one of them?

emodendroket 9y ago
Google isn't just an e-mail service, really.
- thomasfoster96 9y ago
  But… you don’t really have to use Gmail to use most of Google’s other products, just as you don’t really have to use (actively) Google+ to use other Google products either.
  - emodendroket 9y ago
    But imagine you use an Android phone, for instance. There's a whole bunch of integrated stuff that works well together that wouldn't if you had a Google account and then kept your e-mail somewhere else. It's not really a 1:1 comparison.
  - StreamBright 9y ago
    Unfortunately no. You are going to be tracked whereever you go and it has GA. The reason why Google can stop reading your emails is because they have a global network now that can track you better.
StreamBright 9y ago
And how exactly will I escape Google's data collection when Fastmail uses GA for analytics? ....script type="text/javascript" src="/static/scripts/ga.js....
- jkaunisv1 9y ago
  Run a broad-spectrum blocker like uBlock Origin? Access your fastmail from an interface other than their web interface?
  - StreamBright 9y ago
    Ok so there is more involved than just use Fastmail, as it was suggested. Thanks for confirming.
    - dabernathy89 9y ago
      > many options to pay for email, fastmail just for one
- chrismorgan 9y ago
  That’s the marketing site; the actual app where you read your email definitely doesn’t have Google Analytics.

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EGreg 9y ago

You can, it's called Google Apps for Business.

mojowo11 9y ago
Not to be pedantic, but it's called "G Suite" nowadays.

euyyn 9y ago

> all of Google's partners who can purchase our data I'm pretty sure that's the empty set.