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The spam filter is for my benefit, but scanning for ad keywords is designed to benefit someone else, not me.
by roywiggins 9y ago
The spam filter is for my benefit, but scanning for ad keywords is designed to benefit someone else, not me.
- blowski 9y agoTo play Devil's advocate, the ads benefit you because they make Gmail free.
- StreamBright 9y agoI would rather pay and do not share anything with Google (or for that matter all of Google's partners who can purchase our data)
- ams6110 9y agoThere are many options to pay for email, fastmail just for one. Do you use one of them?
- emodendroket 9y agoGoogle isn't just an e-mail service, really.
- thomasfoster96 9y agoBut… you don’t really have to use Gmail to use most of Google’s other products, just as you don’t really have to use (actively) Google+ to use other Google products either.
- emodendroket 9y agoBut imagine you use an Android phone, for instance. There's a whole bunch of integrated stuff that works well together that wouldn't if you had a Google account and then kept your e-mail somewhere else. It's not really a 1:1 comparison.
- StreamBright 9y agoUnfortunately no. You are going to be tracked whereever you go and it has GA. The reason why Google can stop reading your emails is because they have a global network now that can track you better.
- StreamBright 9y agoAnd how exactly will I escape Google's data collection when Fastmail uses GA for analytics? ....script type="text/javascript" src="/static/scripts/ga.js....
- jkaunisv1 9y agoRun a broad-spectrum blocker like uBlock Origin? Access your fastmail from an interface other than their web interface?
- StreamBright 9y agoOk so there is more involved than just use Fastmail, as it was suggested. Thanks for confirming.
- dabernathy89 9y ago> many options to pay for email, fastmail just for one
- chrismorgan 9y agoThat’s the marketing site; the actual app where you read your email definitely doesn’t have Google Analytics.
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- EGreg 9y agoYou can, it's called Google Apps for Business.
- mojowo11 9y agoNot to be pedantic, but it's called "G Suite" nowadays.
- euyyn 9y ago> all of Google's partners who can purchase our data I'm pretty sure that's the empty set.
- simias 9y agoWhat about people not using gmail but sending email to a gmail users? Those don't gain anything here. I actually host my own email but every time I send a message to somebody using one of these webmails it gets indexed and monetized. But I would argue that it's a technical problem first and foremost, email security is mostly a joke. If I need to send sensitive things through emails I can always use PGP to actually protect it, instead of relying on the goodwill of the email provider not to peek into the message. If people really valued their privacy they'd be doing something similar.
- oh_sigh 9y agoAds benefit both you and the other group that they connect you. You finding out about, say, a product you are interested benefits you.
- soperj 9y agoWhat if you're buddhist?
- sqeaky 9y agoThere are many flavors of Buddhism, which one matters here for the point you are making? EDIT - I am not sure why I am being downvote, I legitimately don't get his point and figured I would for more info rather than just calling him out as a troll or something. Is there something obvious I should know?
- CaptSpify 9y agoDisclaimer: I know nothing of Buddhism, I haven't even read the Wikipedia page I believe some Buddhism teaches something along the lines of: personal possessions are bad, and freedom is found in not owning anything. I think OP is saying: advertising goes directly against that line of thinking. It is actually tempting a Buddhist to buy more stuff, thus going against their religion.
- jodrellblank 9y ago"Zen does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes while being informed about ten local places to purchase God with next-day delivery."
- CaptSpify 9y agoIn theory, yes In actuality: they are a waste of my time and mental space
- oh_sigh 9y ago
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