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The biggest problem with Flutter is that of developer reluctance - primarily because of Dart. And ever more so now because Android adopted a small, scrappy comp

The biggest problem with Flutter is that of developer reluctance - primarily because of Dart. And ever more so now because Android adopted a small, scrappy company's homegrown language (Kotlin) instead of Google's own. I'm kind of wondering what are the political fault lines inside Google around the Dart, Flutter and Android ecosystem. If Kotlin gets adopted server side at Google as well (which is fairly likely considering Google is already using the JVM), then why would people bet on Dart ? Is Dart 10x better than Kotlin ?

cheapsteak 9y ago
Search trend comparison of Dart vs Kotlin vs React Native: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F0h52xr1,%2Fm%2F0_lcrx4,React%20Native https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F0h52xr1,%2... Interesting that there's heavy kotlin searching mainly in Russia
- lilactown 9y ago
  Kotlin is the name of an island in Russia.
- evilduck 9y ago
  Not really that surprising to me, Kotlin is named after a Russian island, so naturally their non-developer populace will use the term more than the rest of the world and the programming language was created by JetBrains, a Russian company, so I'd also assume there's probably some elevated interest for Russians in something successful that's also "home grown".
  - sfRattan 9y ago
    Technically, JetBrains is a Czech company with offices in Russia, among a half dozen or so counties.
isoos 9y ago
> Is Dart 10x better than Kotlin For many, it is. The consistency and the well-thought out API and syntax is a huge boost, and while they have similar roots, Dart is much better in these regards. Disclaimer: developed in Kotlin only for a few months, did a lot more in Dart. I encourage you to try it and evaluate it for yourself. Your speculation about the politics in- or outside Google are just that: speculations, while a fair evaluation shows way more nuanced view of what is better and what has better chances in the long term.

cheapsteak 9y ago

Search trend comparison of Dart vs Kotlin vs React Native: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F0h52xr1,%2Fm%2F0_lcrx4,React%20Native https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F0h52xr1,%2... Interesting that there's heavy kotlin searching mainly in Russia

lilactown 9y ago
Kotlin is the name of an island in Russia.
evilduck 9y ago
Not really that surprising to me, Kotlin is named after a Russian island, so naturally their non-developer populace will use the term more than the rest of the world and the programming language was created by JetBrains, a Russian company, so I'd also assume there's probably some elevated interest for Russians in something successful that's also "home grown".
- sfRattan 9y ago
  Technically, JetBrains is a Czech company with offices in Russia, among a half dozen or so counties.

isoos 9y ago

> Is Dart 10x better than Kotlin For many, it is. The consistency and the well-thought out API and syntax is a huge boost, and while they have similar roots, Dart is much better in these regards. Disclaimer: developed in Kotlin only for a few months, did a lot more in Dart. I encourage you to try it and evaluate it for yourself. Your speculation about the politics in- or outside Google are just that: speculations, while a fair evaluation shows way more nuanced view of what is better and what has better chances in the long term.