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Vehicles turning right is a big problem in the Netherlands as well. Not so much that they block intersections, but that bikes going straight have priority over
by phicoh 9y ago
Vehicles turning right is a big problem in the Netherlands as well. Not so much that they block intersections, but that bikes going straight have priority over the vehicle turning right, bikes take priority and then get in an accident. It doesn't matter who was right if you are dead.
In my experience, separate bike lanes are great for long stretches of road without intersections. Also quite safe on intersections with traffic lights if the bikes have their own dedicated time slot. (That's not always the case)
But when bikes going straight are encouraged to pass right turning vehicles on the right, it becomes a serious risk.
- FussyZeus 9y agoEvery time I cross in front of a car I have both hands sitting on the handlebar brakes. On one occasion I actually had to kick the car, someone started moving forward while I was right in front, I kind of bounced off the bumper with a foot and managed to maintain my balance. Thankfully didn't mess up their car, and they got out of the car to make sure I was alright. It's not hostility very often, it's just not paying enough attention to things that aren't cars.
- usrusr 9y agoIn Copenhagen, bike lanes and turn right lanes often overlap. Not bike lane left of the turn right lane, but actually sharing the space, like a C union type. I think it is much safer to merge than to cross.
- Doxin 9y agoActually, turning right is mostly a solved problem in the netherlands. If you ever run into a situation where it's dangerous they just haven't upgraded that intersection yet. The solution here is to make sure a car has the space to make the full turn to the right before encountering the cycle lane. That way the car driver doesn't have to look behind them for bikes, but can see them clearly out the front window.