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I'm a bit confused there, though. The signage clearly marks this as a road you're not allowed to enter from that side, regardless of vehicle and forbidden for p

by ygra 9y ago

I'm a bit confused there, though. The signage clearly marks this as a road you're not allowed to enter from that side, regardless of vehicle and forbidden for pedestrians. The guerilla bike lane thus is not supported by the existing signage and if behaviour prior to this matched what the lane now codifies, then it's worrisome as well. As a cyclist, I'm all for making cycling safer, but breaking road laws to achieve that goal is not the right way. That's a one-way street, clearly marked as not a sidewalk and definitely not a bike lane against the one-way street direction. Guerilla bike lane or not, imho it's a stupid and dangerous idea to walk or cycle there, especially in that direction.

dmurray 9y ago
I'm not familiar with Italian road signs but I'd interpret that sign to mean the exact opposite: pedestrians only.
- ygra 9y ago
  Then it would be blue, not white with a red border. The latter always signifies a forbiddance, while blue signs are an allowance (and often implicitly disallowing everything else).
  - dmurray 9y ago
    Interesting, in Ireland we don't have the red and white pedestrian sign, but we do have the likes of this[0] red and white taxi sign signifying a taxi rank (implicitly disallowing parking for non-taxis). For "no pedestrians", we have what to my eyes much more sensible: the same sign as the Italian one but with a strike through it [1] [0]http://st2.depositphotos.com/7458252/11066/i/950/depositphotos_110668494-stock-photo-taxi-rank-in-ireland.jpg http://st2.depositphotos.com/7458252/11066/i/950/depositphot... [1]http://www.gettyimages.es/detail/foto/no-pedestrians-in-ireland-imagen-libre-de-derechos/480144956 http://www.gettyimages.es/detail/foto/no-pedestrians-in-irel...
pmontra 9y ago
I guess this is the picture you're writing about https://images.wired.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/01132104/1496308861_CPH68216.jpg https://images.wired.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/01132104/... You are right, because the signs are, roughly in this position: 1) One way road. 2) Pedestrian crossing, the one the kid is standing on. 3) No pedestrians allowed. So yes, bikes shouldn't go down that bike lane. If it were an official one they would have changed the road signs to allow it. However I know that's a slow road, so combined with the white line it's probably safe at least during the day. In the night not so much, by direct experience, but bikes were going down there in the forbidden direction anyway.

by ygra 9y ago

dmurray 9y ago

I'm not familiar with Italian road signs but I'd interpret that sign to mean the exact opposite: pedestrians only.

ygra 9y ago
Then it would be blue, not white with a red border. The latter always signifies a forbiddance, while blue signs are an allowance (and often implicitly disallowing everything else).
- dmurray 9y ago
  Interesting, in Ireland we don't have the red and white pedestrian sign, but we do have the likes of this[0] red and white taxi sign signifying a taxi rank (implicitly disallowing parking for non-taxis). For "no pedestrians", we have what to my eyes much more sensible: the same sign as the Italian one but with a strike through it [1] [0]http://st2.depositphotos.com/7458252/11066/i/950/depositphotos_110668494-stock-photo-taxi-rank-in-ireland.jpg http://st2.depositphotos.com/7458252/11066/i/950/depositphot... [1]http://www.gettyimages.es/detail/foto/no-pedestrians-in-ireland-imagen-libre-de-derechos/480144956 http://www.gettyimages.es/detail/foto/no-pedestrians-in-irel...

pmontra 9y ago

I guess this is the picture you're writing about https://images.wired.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/01132104/1496308861_CPH68216.jpg https://images.wired.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/01132104/... You are right, because the signs are, roughly in this position: 1) One way road. 2) Pedestrian crossing, the one the kid is standing on. 3) No pedestrians allowed. So yes, bikes shouldn't go down that bike lane. If it were an official one they would have changed the road signs to allow it. However I know that's a slow road, so combined with the white line it's probably safe at least during the day. In the night not so much, by direct experience, but bikes were going down there in the forbidden direction anyway.