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> anyone can do the same, anywhere. I love Holland and I love biking but you guys have it easy compared to, say, Seattle where I live part-time. The hills make

> anyone can do the same, anywhere. I love Holland and I love biking but you guys have it easy compared to, say, Seattle where I live part-time. The hills make it a very different problem. I bike a lot but will still drive/uber when I can't deal with being crazy sweaty for a meeting or something. I was very disappointed when they decided NOT to install electric bikes in the bike share system here. Electric bikes are the only way you'll get the ridership numbers needed in a place with the topography of Seattle. I also suspect it rains more in Seattle than Holland.

bryanlarsen 9y ago
AFAICT Seattle has fewer hills than Aarhus, Denmark. 47% of commutes in Aarhus are done by bicycle.
- Freak_NL 9y ago
  It also does not appear to rain more in Seattle than in, say, Amsterdam: https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Temperature-Sunshine,seattle,United-States-of-America https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Tem... https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Temperature-Sunshine,Amsterdam,Netherlands https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Tem... This is a cultural and legacy infrastructure problem mostly.
- TulliusCicero 9y ago
  I'm pretty sure Seattle has much more severe hills, though. Just look at Google Maps for each city with the terrain on: Aarhus: https://www.google.de/maps/place/Aarhus,+Denmark/@56.1613594,10.1730985,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x464c4cb15397788b:0x8c4dd7d9912ea2af!8m2!3d56.162939!4d10.203921!5m1!1e4?hl=en https://www.google.de/maps/place/Aarhus,+Denmark/@56.1613594... Seattle: https://www.google.de/maps/place/Seattle,+WA,+USA/@47.6070814,-122.359585,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x5490102c93e83355:0x102565466944d59a!8m2!3d47.6062095!4d-122.3320708!5m1!1e4?hl=en https://www.google.de/maps/place/Seattle,+WA,+USA/@47.607081... That said, * Electric bikes are making this less important over time * A lot of trips can still be done without hitting severe hills * It's possible to deal with hills by installing bike escalators (there's one in Trondheim that seems to work well) if you're really serious

bryanlarsen 9y ago

AFAICT Seattle has fewer hills than Aarhus, Denmark. 47% of commutes in Aarhus are done by bicycle.

Freak_NL 9y ago
It also does not appear to rain more in Seattle than in, say, Amsterdam: https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Temperature-Sunshine,seattle,United-States-of-America https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Tem... https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Temperature-Sunshine,Amsterdam,Netherlands https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Tem... This is a cultural and legacy infrastructure problem mostly.
TulliusCicero 9y ago
I'm pretty sure Seattle has much more severe hills, though. Just look at Google Maps for each city with the terrain on: Aarhus: https://www.google.de/maps/place/Aarhus,+Denmark/@56.1613594,10.1730985,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x464c4cb15397788b:0x8c4dd7d9912ea2af!8m2!3d56.162939!4d10.203921!5m1!1e4?hl=en https://www.google.de/maps/place/Aarhus,+Denmark/@56.1613594... Seattle: https://www.google.de/maps/place/Seattle,+WA,+USA/@47.6070814,-122.359585,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x5490102c93e83355:0x102565466944d59a!8m2!3d47.6062095!4d-122.3320708!5m1!1e4?hl=en https://www.google.de/maps/place/Seattle,+WA,+USA/@47.607081... That said, * Electric bikes are making this less important over time * A lot of trips can still be done without hitting severe hills * It's possible to deal with hills by installing bike escalators (there's one in Trondheim that seems to work well) if you're really serious