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>How many practical, modern use cases does Cpp have at this point for those of us who don't work in a few very specific verticals like finance or game dev? I

by jasode 9y ago

>How many practical, modern use cases does Cpp have at this point for those of us who don't work in a few very specific verticals like finance or game dev? I understand your reservations but keep in mind that the blog post is intended for an audience that has already bought into C++ programming and therefore, may want to improve their baseline C++ skills. It's not an an evangelism article to convince those not using C++ right now. That said, to answer your question directly... I think that programmers who require high-performance code with low-to-zero cost abstractions will self-select into C or C++ ecosystems. In other words, a programmer thinking about writing a web app to track food recipes isn't going to be perplexed about choosing "C++? vs Ruby? vs COBOL?". Like you hinted at, the domain of the app constrains what the programming languages will be realistically chosen.

doktrin 9y ago
> It's not an an evangelism article to convince those not using C++ right now. I get that. Maybe I should have added a disclaimer to that end. > In other words, a programmer thinking about writing a web app to track food recipes You're maybe the 5th person who's made thinly veiled barbs about me being one of those despised subhuman web developers, so I'll just answer this once and for all : Though I have written web apps in the past, I'm not really a web developer. What I am is a developer who builds shit that people use - be it desktop apps, mobile apps, games or web-apps. I don't give two shits if I'm using RubyScript or a goddamn magnetized needle : if I need the tool I'll happily learn it. My only problem here is I can't find a good reason to learn C++. That's all.
- quantdev 9y ago
  No one is trying to convince you to use C++. Obviously the data show there are tons of C++ jobs and this is something you can google yourself. And finance is not a "niche", considering it's like 20% of the US economy. I'm in finance and I write high-performance simulations and pricers. These things need to be predictable, fast, and the code needs to be maintainable. And yes, despite what the prevailing Go or Rust bros say, modern C++ is maintainable.
  - doktrin 9y ago
    > No one is trying to convince you to use C++ Weird considering that was my specific question. > considering it's like 20% of the US economy The disproportionate size and role of the parasitic financial sector is a tragedy for the modern US economy.
    - quantdev 9y ago
      You've clearly made up your mind, considering you are just arguing random points -- your opinion on finance is not relevant to the point that there are lots of C++ jobs in finance. And it's not just for some legacy reason: even much of Blockchain infrastructure is build with C++ and many crypto jobs that are open today are for C++.
      - doktrin 9y ago
        So, I specifically cited finance in my original comment, and yet you come with "yeah but finance..." as if that's somehow revelatory. Moreover I wasn't asking about job opportunities per se - like you so astutely pointed out I can just search for those. I was more interested in what could I personally use C++ for that didn't involve joining a large dev team working on some unspecified codebase.

by jasode 9y ago

doktrin 9y ago

> It's not an an evangelism article to convince those not using C++ right now. I get that. Maybe I should have added a disclaimer to that end. > In other words, a programmer thinking about writing a web app to track food recipes You're maybe the 5th person who's made thinly veiled barbs about me being one of those despised subhuman web developers, so I'll just answer this once and for all : Though I have written web apps in the past, I'm not really a web developer. What I am is a developer who builds shit that people use - be it desktop apps, mobile apps, games or web-apps. I don't give two shits if I'm using RubyScript or a goddamn magnetized needle : if I need the tool I'll happily learn it. My only problem here is I can't find a good reason to learn C++. That's all.

quantdev 9y ago
No one is trying to convince you to use C++. Obviously the data show there are tons of C++ jobs and this is something you can google yourself. And finance is not a "niche", considering it's like 20% of the US economy. I'm in finance and I write high-performance simulations and pricers. These things need to be predictable, fast, and the code needs to be maintainable. And yes, despite what the prevailing Go or Rust bros say, modern C++ is maintainable.
- doktrin 9y ago
  > No one is trying to convince you to use C++ Weird considering that was my specific question. > considering it's like 20% of the US economy The disproportionate size and role of the parasitic financial sector is a tragedy for the modern US economy.
  - quantdev 9y ago
    You've clearly made up your mind, considering you are just arguing random points -- your opinion on finance is not relevant to the point that there are lots of C++ jobs in finance. And it's not just for some legacy reason: even much of Blockchain infrastructure is build with C++ and many crypto jobs that are open today are for C++.
    - doktrin 9y ago
      So, I specifically cited finance in my original comment, and yet you come with "yeah but finance..." as if that's somehow revelatory. Moreover I wasn't asking about job opportunities per se - like you so astutely pointed out I can just search for those. I was more interested in what could I personally use C++ for that didn't involve joining a large dev team working on some unspecified codebase.