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This fact has been overlooked by way too many people. One should ask why the victims would refrain from providing law enforcement with access to evidence relat

This fact has been overlooked by way too many people. One should ask why the victims would refrain from providing law enforcement with access to evidence related to a crime that is later blamed as the reason they lost the election.

klodolph 9y ago
"…the FBI never requested access to the DNC’s computer servers…"
- shard972 9y ago
  Then how are they able to say with certainty of what happened? Is it normal to just take private companies at their word when it comes to investigations?
  - mejari 9y ago
    The servers were investigated directly by a private company that specialized in such things, that the FBI regularly works with, and the results were handed over. It's really not that strange for an organization to balk at handing over it's private proprietary information to the federal government. Especially when there was a chance that within a year that government would be run by someone with a personal vendetta against said organization.
    - Cozumel 9y ago
      > 'The servers were investigated directly by a private company' A private company owned by the very people who apparently did the breach. Dmitri Alperovitc is Russian and owns Crowdstrike, the company that did the 'investigation'. I'm not saying they did it, and honestly I don't care one way or the other but hiring the people who (allegedly) hacked you to find out who hacked you is the epitome of stupidity. Going by what we see of the FBI they absolutely reek of incompetence, paying $1 million to unlock an iPhone is another example! (edited: typo)
      - klodolph 9y ago
        Are you saying that Dmitri Alperovitc did the hacking, or that he's an agent of those who did? Or are you just saying that if you think some Russians did hacking, you should not trust any Russians? None of these options make any sense to me.
      - mejari 9y ago
        >A private company owned by the very people who apparently did the breach. Dmitri Alperovitc is Russian and owns Crowdstrike, the company that did the 'investigation'. All Russians are not members of the Russian government... >Going by what we see of the FBI they absolutely reek of incompetence, paying $1 million to unlock an iPhone is another example! I mean, sure if you phrase it like that. Actually understanding the circumstances around that (completely unrelated to what we're talking about) situation would show that it wasn't really that simple.
  - 0xbear 9y ago
    About as normal as private discussions with Attorney General when your wife is under investigation, and AG requesting FBI to call an active investigation a "matter" to coordinate the narrative with press.

klodolph 9y ago

"…the FBI never requested access to the DNC’s computer servers…"

shard972 9y ago
Then how are they able to say with certainty of what happened? Is it normal to just take private companies at their word when it comes to investigations?
- mejari 9y ago
  The servers were investigated directly by a private company that specialized in such things, that the FBI regularly works with, and the results were handed over. It's really not that strange for an organization to balk at handing over it's private proprietary information to the federal government. Especially when there was a chance that within a year that government would be run by someone with a personal vendetta against said organization.
  - Cozumel 9y ago
    > 'The servers were investigated directly by a private company' A private company owned by the very people who apparently did the breach. Dmitri Alperovitc is Russian and owns Crowdstrike, the company that did the 'investigation'. I'm not saying they did it, and honestly I don't care one way or the other but hiring the people who (allegedly) hacked you to find out who hacked you is the epitome of stupidity. Going by what we see of the FBI they absolutely reek of incompetence, paying $1 million to unlock an iPhone is another example! (edited: typo)
    - klodolph 9y ago
      Are you saying that Dmitri Alperovitc did the hacking, or that he's an agent of those who did? Or are you just saying that if you think some Russians did hacking, you should not trust any Russians? None of these options make any sense to me.
    - mejari 9y ago
      >A private company owned by the very people who apparently did the breach. Dmitri Alperovitc is Russian and owns Crowdstrike, the company that did the 'investigation'. All Russians are not members of the Russian government... >Going by what we see of the FBI they absolutely reek of incompetence, paying $1 million to unlock an iPhone is another example! I mean, sure if you phrase it like that. Actually understanding the circumstances around that (completely unrelated to what we're talking about) situation would show that it wasn't really that simple.
- 0xbear 9y ago
  About as normal as private discussions with Attorney General when your wife is under investigation, and AG requesting FBI to call an active investigation a "matter" to coordinate the narrative with press.