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This FB post is referred to in the article, written by a woman who is very, very supportive of TK: https://www.facebook.com/margaretann.seger/posts/102140040585

This FB post is referred to in the article, written by a woman who is very, very supportive of TK: https://www.facebook.com/margaretann.seger/posts/10214004058522221 https://www.facebook.com/margaretann.seger/posts/10214004058... 1000 people have "liked" the posting including Zuckerberg and a number of women have commented in support of TK. EDIT: This is from the FB poster, Margaret-Ann Seger. Other women seem to confirm her perspective. If it were truly a sexist culture as was claimed then you wouldn’t be seeing these testimonials. It suggests that despite everything, something else is going on. “Thank you for creating a culture where- as a woman- it was okay to, no, encouraged to speak up. This is one of my oft less-told anecdotes, but I feel it's appropriate given the circumstances. Before Uber, I was at Facebook. I left Facebook because I was told that I was too aggressive. Pushing too hard, wanting to move too fast, challenging the status quo a bit too much. The amazing part is that coming to Uber was like a homecoming. I could be who I truly am, without being labeled an "aggressive" woman. I could push on assumptions, move quickly, do whatever work needed to be done whether it was "in my area" or not, question leadership in an open, earnest environment. It was like a breath of fresh air. I don't think people realize how unique this is. This company truly listens to every voice, from the VPs all the way down to the junior PMs like myself. Thank you. Thank you for listening and creating an environment where the best answer truly does win.”

malandrew 9y ago
Another post from Frederique Dame: https://www.facebook.com/frederique/posts/10155430670252905?match=ZnJlZGVyaXF1ZSBkYW1lLGZyZWRlcmlxdWUsZGFtZQ%3D%3D https://www.facebook.com/frederique/posts/10155430670252905?...
zzalpha 9y ago
If it were truly a sexist culture as was claimed then you wouldn’t be seeing these testimonials. Fascinating. One group of women saying the culture in Uber is corrosive? Well that's rumour and innuendo. But another group of women saying it's fine? Well, then that's just the way it must be! Confirmation bias much? Here's the thing: There was an investigation. By Eric frickin' Holder. Not exactly a legal slouch. Out of that came nearly fifty recommendations for ways to fix the culture. Are we to believe Holder was just full of it? That it was all manufactured? All because 6% of the Uber headcount think things were fine? Edit: Incidentally, those women that are supportive of Kalanick could easily be explained by survivorship bias. That is, the women that ended up in groups that didn't suck, or could handle the culture, stuck around while the rest left.
- davidf18 9y ago
  > "One group of women saying the culture in Uber is corrosive? Well that's rumour and innuendo." I never suggested rumor or innuendo. But it is sexist to not believe not a single woman but a number of women who come out and support TK. Women know even if they have not experienced it directly (e.g. "the grapevine") if it were a sexist environment. It is sexist to discount the FB poster, Margaret-Ann Seger and the many other women who have come out in favor of TK. Ms. Seger even suggests the cultural difference which favors her personality in her post where she said she was too aggressive for the FB environment but fit right in with Uber. Eric Holder would not be my first choice to investigate a corporate culture. There are professionals who have both MBAs and who are clinical psychologists that even specialize with hi-tech companies who also see patients on an individual basis. Eric Holder is not a clinical psychologist, has no clinical experience, is not an expert in corporate culture let alone the unique culture of the hi-tech startup firm. These people have the clinical and business experience to deal with corporate cultures and those that specialize in hi-tech firms understand that unique environment. Disclose, I have worked with such a specialist. I have worked in Israel and the culture there can be off-putting to many in the US, especially those from the west coast. Intel, which employs 10,000 in Israel, even offers cross-cultural classes between West Coast and Israeli culture. Many people would consider Israelis very pushy (Hutzpah is the term). Israelis are very direct and many people don't like that. I happen to love that but adjust for different people. In summary, it is sexist to discount the opinions of women who worked with TK. Eric Holder is not a clinical psychologist nor an expert in hi-tech culture. He is no industrial psychologist. It is strange that a non-professional would be chosen to investigate the organization. Something else was going on.
  - zzalpha 9y ago
    But it is sexist to not believe not a single woman but a number of women who come out and support TK. ROFL. I could literally replace the word "support" with "do not support" in this sentence and it would be an equally valid argument. A bad one. But equally so. Read my comment again. I already explained why both groups of women could be right. Something else was going on. You're confirmation bias is showing again...

malandrew 9y ago

Another post from Frederique Dame: https://www.facebook.com/frederique/posts/10155430670252905?match=ZnJlZGVyaXF1ZSBkYW1lLGZyZWRlcmlxdWUsZGFtZQ%3D%3D https://www.facebook.com/frederique/posts/10155430670252905?...

zzalpha 9y ago

If it were truly a sexist culture as was claimed then you wouldn’t be seeing these testimonials. Fascinating. One group of women saying the culture in Uber is corrosive? Well that's rumour and innuendo. But another group of women saying it's fine? Well, then that's just the way it must be! Confirmation bias much? Here's the thing: There was an investigation. By Eric frickin' Holder. Not exactly a legal slouch. Out of that came nearly fifty recommendations for ways to fix the culture. Are we to believe Holder was just full of it? That it was all manufactured? All because 6% of the Uber headcount think things were fine? Edit: Incidentally, those women that are supportive of Kalanick could easily be explained by survivorship bias. That is, the women that ended up in groups that didn't suck, or could handle the culture, stuck around while the rest left.

davidf18 9y ago
> "One group of women saying the culture in Uber is corrosive? Well that's rumour and innuendo." I never suggested rumor or innuendo. But it is sexist to not believe not a single woman but a number of women who come out and support TK. Women know even if they have not experienced it directly (e.g. "the grapevine") if it were a sexist environment. It is sexist to discount the FB poster, Margaret-Ann Seger and the many other women who have come out in favor of TK. Ms. Seger even suggests the cultural difference which favors her personality in her post where she said she was too aggressive for the FB environment but fit right in with Uber. Eric Holder would not be my first choice to investigate a corporate culture. There are professionals who have both MBAs and who are clinical psychologists that even specialize with hi-tech companies who also see patients on an individual basis. Eric Holder is not a clinical psychologist, has no clinical experience, is not an expert in corporate culture let alone the unique culture of the hi-tech startup firm. These people have the clinical and business experience to deal with corporate cultures and those that specialize in hi-tech firms understand that unique environment. Disclose, I have worked with such a specialist. I have worked in Israel and the culture there can be off-putting to many in the US, especially those from the west coast. Intel, which employs 10,000 in Israel, even offers cross-cultural classes between West Coast and Israeli culture. Many people would consider Israelis very pushy (Hutzpah is the term). Israelis are very direct and many people don't like that. I happen to love that but adjust for different people. In summary, it is sexist to discount the opinions of women who worked with TK. Eric Holder is not a clinical psychologist nor an expert in hi-tech culture. He is no industrial psychologist. It is strange that a non-professional would be chosen to investigate the organization. Something else was going on.
- zzalpha 9y ago
  But it is sexist to not believe not a single woman but a number of women who come out and support TK. ROFL. I could literally replace the word "support" with "do not support" in this sentence and it would be an equally valid argument. A bad one. But equally so. Read my comment again. I already explained why both groups of women could be right. Something else was going on. You're confirmation bias is showing again...