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I can only imagine the reaction if a major Apple competitor had the same problem. Apple gets a pass on everything.

mcav 16y ago
If a competitor's phone was as good as the iPhone 4 in all other areas, I suspect they'd get a little bit of a pass too.
- fname 16y ago
  ...and that's how the monopoly begins. Seriously, that type of thinking echos the same problem that Microsoft had. It's not our software, you just don't know how to use it.
  - jonhohle 16y ago
    On one hand, it doesn't appear that they are getting a pass at all. This seems like they've gotten far more bad press for it than is necessary. On the other hand, other device makers should really step up their game. I don't like the idea of a new computing monopoly, but who is out there seriously competing with Apple right now? (If what the other device makers is doing currently is competing, Apple doesn't have anything to worry about for a while).
ugh 16y ago
That’s really what you think? Really? What do you expect would happen if some Android phone had similar issues? I don’t think a lot more than this shitstorm. A few articles on Gizmodo and Engadget maybe, nothing like the widespread coverage we are seeing here.
- CrazedGeek 16y ago
  In fact, there were a few (smaller) problems with the EVO 4G: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incr... http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/13/htc-evo-suffering-from-glass-separation-issues/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/13/htc-evo-suffering-from-gl... None of the coverage was anywhere close to the iPhone's coverage.
tvon 16y ago
Let me help your imagination: Nobody would give a shit if this was any other company. You'd get maybe 1/10th of the stories and 1/100th of the up-votes and comments around the web. Maybe.
masklinn 16y ago
> I can only imagine the reaction if a major Apple competitor had the same problem. Apple gets a pass on everything. It's interesting because the same problem has been reported on both the Nexus One and the Evo 4G, yet nobody gives a damn. Oh look, your statement is completely the wrong way around. Same stuff with Google's remote application killing, had Apple done it it'd be all over the web and would be the first link on HN. Google did it, the HN link has already fallen off the front page.
- andreyf 16y ago
  Same stuff with Google's remote application killing, had Apple done it it'd be all over the web and would be the first link on HN. Google did it, the HN link has already fallen off the front page. Ironically, when I Googled it, the top story was titled "Google pulls an Apple". Apparently, Apple doesn't get a free pass even when Google pulls applications for their app store ;) http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Google-Pulls-an-Apple-Yanks-2-Apps-from-Android-Market-853635/ http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Google-Pulls-an-Apple-Yank...

mcav 16y ago

If a competitor's phone was as good as the iPhone 4 in all other areas, I suspect they'd get a little bit of a pass too.

fname 16y ago
...and that's how the monopoly begins. Seriously, that type of thinking echos the same problem that Microsoft had. It's not our software, you just don't know how to use it.
- jonhohle 16y ago
  On one hand, it doesn't appear that they are getting a pass at all. This seems like they've gotten far more bad press for it than is necessary. On the other hand, other device makers should really step up their game. I don't like the idea of a new computing monopoly, but who is out there seriously competing with Apple right now? (If what the other device makers is doing currently is competing, Apple doesn't have anything to worry about for a while).

ugh 16y ago

That’s really what you think? Really? What do you expect would happen if some Android phone had similar issues? I don’t think a lot more than this shitstorm. A few articles on Gizmodo and Engadget maybe, nothing like the widespread coverage we are seeing here.

CrazedGeek 16y ago
In fact, there were a few (smaller) problems with the EVO 4G: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incr... http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/13/htc-evo-suffering-from-glass-separation-issues/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/13/htc-evo-suffering-from-gl... None of the coverage was anywhere close to the iPhone's coverage.

tvon 16y ago

Let me help your imagination: Nobody would give a shit if this was any other company. You'd get maybe 1/10th of the stories and 1/100th of the up-votes and comments around the web. Maybe.

masklinn 16y ago

> I can only imagine the reaction if a major Apple competitor had the same problem. Apple gets a pass on everything. It's interesting because the same problem has been reported on both the Nexus One and the Evo 4G, yet nobody gives a damn. Oh look, your statement is completely the wrong way around. Same stuff with Google's remote application killing, had Apple done it it'd be all over the web and would be the first link on HN. Google did it, the HN link has already fallen off the front page.

andreyf 16y ago
Same stuff with Google's remote application killing, had Apple done it it'd be all over the web and would be the first link on HN. Google did it, the HN link has already fallen off the front page. Ironically, when I Googled it, the top story was titled "Google pulls an Apple". Apparently, Apple doesn't get a free pass even when Google pulls applications for their app store ;) http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Google-Pulls-an-Apple-Yanks-2-Apps-from-Android-Market-853635/ http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Google-Pulls-an-Apple-Yank...