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The bad guys in David Weber's Honor Harrington novels are based on this idea. It's an interesting take on what might happen.

maxamillion12 9y ago
Honor Harrington is honestly one of the most formalic books I've ever read though, and the author seems to have made it into his personal political screed after book 6. The praxis books are far better, only problem is that there are only 3
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dragonwriter 9y ago
> The bad guys in David Weber's Honor Harrington novels are based on this idea. Pedantically, the obvious “bad guys” in the earliest few, not the (so far, at least) principal bad guys of the whole series, who it turns out were also manipulating those obvious, early ones. > It's an interesting take on what might happen. It's kind of a shallow throwaway regurgitation of a standard argument without deep exploration or novel insight (which is okay, because it's not like Havenite society under the People's Republic is all that central a focus of any of the books, so shallow cartoonish broad strokes are fine.)
astrange 9y ago
The bad guys in Baen published novels are just whoever the author doesn't like, usually anyone who isn't a Republican. Though David Weber has his own pro-monarchy pro-libertarian ironically-not-racist thing going on, he just assigns random evil acts to random characters coincidentally named after his opponents, like having the Progressive Party actually be into human trafficking. (When SF authors get old they all develop terrible opinions a while before anyone notices. Like Larry Niven wrote a book about the Green Party causing an ice age by stopping climate change and Arthur C Clarke became a pedophile. Heinlein, of course, started out that way.)
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > like having the Progressive Party actually be into human trafficking. IIRC, the Party, per se, wasn't, though a leader of that party was an agent of an organization that was.

maxamillion12 9y ago

Honor Harrington is honestly one of the most formalic books I've ever read though, and the author seems to have made it into his personal political screed after book 6. The praxis books are far better, only problem is that there are only 3

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dragonwriter 9y ago

> The bad guys in David Weber's Honor Harrington novels are based on this idea. Pedantically, the obvious “bad guys” in the earliest few, not the (so far, at least) principal bad guys of the whole series, who it turns out were also manipulating those obvious, early ones. > It's an interesting take on what might happen. It's kind of a shallow throwaway regurgitation of a standard argument without deep exploration or novel insight (which is okay, because it's not like Havenite society under the People's Republic is all that central a focus of any of the books, so shallow cartoonish broad strokes are fine.)

astrange 9y ago

The bad guys in Baen published novels are just whoever the author doesn't like, usually anyone who isn't a Republican. Though David Weber has his own pro-monarchy pro-libertarian ironically-not-racist thing going on, he just assigns random evil acts to random characters coincidentally named after his opponents, like having the Progressive Party actually be into human trafficking. (When SF authors get old they all develop terrible opinions a while before anyone notices. Like Larry Niven wrote a book about the Green Party causing an ice age by stopping climate change and Arthur C Clarke became a pedophile. Heinlein, of course, started out that way.)

dragonwriter 9y ago
> like having the Progressive Party actually be into human trafficking. IIRC, the Party, per se, wasn't, though a leader of that party was an agent of an organization that was.