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This is the tipping point Jobs was afraid of: The AppStore rules were created to ensure no single developer could become the portal that wrestled control over t

This is the tipping point Jobs was afraid of: The AppStore rules were created to ensure no single developer could become the portal that wrestled control over the user experience from the OS the way Chrome did for windows. Now both operating systems are being subsumed by messenger apps as the vast majority of the experience, thus earning the future value and trust of users.

samstave 9y ago
>no single developer could become the portal that pulled control over the user experience form the OS the way Chrome did for windows. Can you expand on this?? How did chrome wrest the user experience?
- tsunamifury 9y ago
  The basic measurement is: Did i buy this machine/OS just so I could use one app 90% of the time. This is what the web-browser did to Windows.
  - johansch 9y ago
    "[Netscape will soon reduce Windows to] a poorly debugged set of device drivers." (Marc Andreessen, 1995)
- sdm 9y ago
  Not really chrome -- it didn't exist yet when this started to happen. But web applications in general. And the whole Web 2.0 movement. As people spent more time in browsers and those browsers became more standards compliant it weakened MS' dominance and let others, like OS X, start to compete. As developers, especially for in house applications, saw it was much cheaper to publish to a common platform rather than have to worry about local installs they changed where they were spending money. The browser effectively killed MS' complete dominance.
  - acqq 9y ago
    Initially, with Jobs, there were no apps for iPhone, the web was to be a medium.
  - pfranz 9y ago
    I'm confused (and have never really heard this theory). Is there anything to support this from Apple or Jobs? Plan A (at least publicly) was that web apps were the only apps on the iPhone. Were these rules and the App Store a reaction to that or would have Apple kept web apps crippled in Safari?
    - tsunamifury 9y ago
      Initially Jobs was against all apps, and wanted just mildly useful webapps running in their crippled JavaScript engine. Then they allowed apps but with many UX restrictions like no drawing UI outside the view etc. Nothing that could infringe on the core interaction models of iOS.
    - deleted 9y ago
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- vacri 9y ago
  You can buy a laptop that just runs Chrome and get most desktop tasks done on it. The Chromebook has been fairly popular.
akum 9y ago
The lesson was Microsoft Office and Photoshop. I remember parents didn't want to buy their kids a mac because Office "wouldn't run on it".

samstave 9y ago

>no single developer could become the portal that pulled control over the user experience form the OS the way Chrome did for windows. Can you expand on this?? How did chrome wrest the user experience?

tsunamifury 9y ago
The basic measurement is: Did i buy this machine/OS just so I could use one app 90% of the time. This is what the web-browser did to Windows.
- johansch 9y ago
  "[Netscape will soon reduce Windows to] a poorly debugged set of device drivers." (Marc Andreessen, 1995)
sdm 9y ago
Not really chrome -- it didn't exist yet when this started to happen. But web applications in general. And the whole Web 2.0 movement. As people spent more time in browsers and those browsers became more standards compliant it weakened MS' dominance and let others, like OS X, start to compete. As developers, especially for in house applications, saw it was much cheaper to publish to a common platform rather than have to worry about local installs they changed where they were spending money. The browser effectively killed MS' complete dominance.
- acqq 9y ago
  Initially, with Jobs, there were no apps for iPhone, the web was to be a medium.
- pfranz 9y ago
  I'm confused (and have never really heard this theory). Is there anything to support this from Apple or Jobs? Plan A (at least publicly) was that web apps were the only apps on the iPhone. Were these rules and the App Store a reaction to that or would have Apple kept web apps crippled in Safari?
  - tsunamifury 9y ago
    Initially Jobs was against all apps, and wanted just mildly useful webapps running in their crippled JavaScript engine. Then they allowed apps but with many UX restrictions like no drawing UI outside the view etc. Nothing that could infringe on the core interaction models of iOS.
  - deleted 9y ago
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vacri 9y ago
You can buy a laptop that just runs Chrome and get most desktop tasks done on it. The Chromebook has been fairly popular.

akum 9y ago

The lesson was Microsoft Office and Photoshop. I remember parents didn't want to buy their kids a mac because Office "wouldn't run on it".