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If Wal-Mart decrees this, put up or shut up. Welcome to business. CEO Diktats about using not using competitor services for anything whatsoever, are as old as
by throwawaymanbot 9y ago
If Wal-Mart decrees this, put up or shut up. Welcome to business.
CEO Diktats about using not using competitor services for anything whatsoever, are as old as Microsoft. Wal-mart is not in the cloud business, so I can only wonder if, as others have commented, it is about data security in AWS domain, since Wal-Mart's main competitor is Amazon.
We know what Google and Facebook get up to with peoples data, why would Amazon not analyze or try similar to their customers? To have all that technical capability and not be curious about stuff would be a waste.
Finally, I think it would be great for everyone (except Amazon), if wal-mart got in to the cloud. Using their leverage to create cheaper cloud would benefit us all.
- Oletros 9y ago> We know what Google and Facebook get up to with peoples data, why would Amazon not analyze or try similar to their customers? To have all that technical capability and not be curious about stuff would be a waste. Do Google, Amazon or Microsoft look at the data of their cloud offer clients? I bet that if they do and it is know their business would go to hell
- throwawaymanbot 9y agoAgree totally. I would find it hard to believe, that large well financed companies, with some of the most technically capable staff on the planet, would have the restraint to not peek.
- Oletros 9y agoSo you think Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc spy the confidential data of their customers?
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- petraeus 9y agoSo .. you think they ... don't?
- Oletros 9y agoUntil proven wrong, yes, I think they don't do that, there is no proof and it would be very silly to do that on EC2, Google Cloud or Azure. Any hint that they could have been sneaking in confidential data of customers?
- skybrian 9y agoIt's not just a matter of restraint. Large, well-financed companies can also afford to put some of their most capable staff on internal security.
- throwawaymanbot 9y agoTrue, but also a fairly recent Yahoo/email access incident, is a case in point where people decided to circumvent the entire security staff.
- the_common_man 9y ago> It's not just a matter of restraint. Large, well-financed companies can also afford to put some of their most capable staff on internal security. So how come the VW fiasco didn't get caught years ago?
- skybrian 9y agoOrders from the top and a lack of activist employees? It's not inevitable; much depends on employee culture. On the other hand, look at Uber.
- the_common_man 9y agoRight, so one cannot assume that these cloud providers have a golden heart and won't peak into our data. I don't see what stops them from peeking into the data, ensuring that the business dies and later just pay some "fine". Basically what MS did killing many companies unscrupulously.
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- mabbo 9y agoPeeking at competitor data would be a short term great idea, long term terrible idea. You do it once, you'll do it again. You do it too many times, someone will rat you out and now your losing customers fast. Amazon may not be the most ethical company, but they've never been accused of short term thinking. It's just completely outside of what if expect from them.
- sharemywin 9y agoAmazon is a collection of individuals. It only takes a small number of employees to circumvent the best protocols.
- deegles 9y agoI'm sorry but that's ridiculous to say. If you had enough knowledge about AWS security practices to assert that, you'd know not to say it.
- throwawaymanbot 9y agoIf you want to address this to Wal-mart Corp it might be better. They made a decision about some vendors using AWS, and there might be a very good reason behind it in relation to the comment above this. There may also be be a snotty CEO decision behind it. Who really knows?
- sharemywin 9y agoSo they have better security protocols than say the CIA? and yet they have leaks and issues. Generally any system has a person doing something and someone looking over their shoulder. If you get to both your system is compromised.
- sqeaky 9y agoWhat about Amazon, a company, a collection of individuals, makes them better than other people? Even groups with extremely stringent security protocols has trouble with people skirting security procedure. Consider the US Air Force who has control over a large collection of nuclear weapons. They have some of the most stringent procedures like Chain of Custody (any time a weapon changes hands a verified ledger is written to by the recipients and deliverers and sent elsewhere for archiving and oversight), Two person control (There are always two people with every weapon and every launch code container) and about a dozen other extreme procedures they still occasionally "lose" a nuclear fucking bomb. The last time they lost one they accidentally left it loaded on an airplane on a low security runway. Any construction worker (which are always on every Military base) could have walked up to the plane and hauled off with it. Thankfully this didn't happen and hopefully runway security would have intervened, but this goes to show that as long as people are involved there can and will be mistakes. To drive this point just a little harder, the Air Force has strong motive to not lose weapons and Amazon might have financial incentive to look on occasion. I re-iterate, what about Amazon, a company, a collection of individuals, makes them better than other people?
- youdontknowtho 9y agoIt's actually older than Microsoft. Just saying.
- throwawaymanbot 9y agoSliced bread didn't seem appropriate. Especially not in these Gluten intolerant times. :p