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It's pretty obvious that a self-driving camera-based software would take advantage of headlights on a car, just like a human does? So it never has to drive in f

It's pretty obvious that a self-driving camera-based software would take advantage of headlights on a car, just like a human does? So it never has to drive in full darkness.

PKop 9y ago
You missed the analogy: Darkness is to eyesight as inclement weather/obstacles is to LIDAR
- JshWright 9y ago
  What's the point of that analogy? Darkness can be fixed with lights on the vehicle itself. Inclement weather is entirely outside the control of the vehicle.
  - vsl 9y ago
    LIDAR doesn't work in inclement weather, that's the point.
- sqeaky 9y ago
  Our eyes also come with our brains packed full of fancy algorithms to extract value from minimal information. I am not sure what software does with noise from a lidar sensor but I have seen data from other noisy sensors and they are often useless.
kamaal 9y ago
Actually you will need more than a camera input, may be even a sound input. In darkness it helps if you can hear the vehicles coming close.
- cr0sh 9y ago
  > may be even a sound input Bingo. When we drive a vehicle, we use so much more than just our eyes to sense the environment, and hearing plays a very large part. I believe that it is something that warrants research for self-driving vehicle usage; I don't know if anyone has done such research, but I haven't seen any papers on it yet. If not, it seems like an underappreciated sensor aspect that could potentially greatly augment self-driving vehicle capabilities, and would be a very simple and cheap sensor to add to a vehicle as well. EDIT: Found this recent article... https://www.technologyreview.com/s/604272/a-sense-of-hearing-could-make-cars-safer-and-more-reliable/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/604272/a-sense-of-hearing... While it seems to be focused mainly on diagnosing issues with vehicles before they become larger problems, there are hints about it being used for self-driving tasks as well.
  - Diederich 9y ago
    I think you're implying that deaf drivers are fundamentally less safe than hearing drivers. Studies have been highly mixed: http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/topics/deaf-drivers.htm http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/topics/deaf-drivers.htm I would be comfortable saying that the advantages a deaf, many eyed, always alert self driving system would far outweigh the safety of a hearing, two eyed and sometimes alert human driver.

It's pretty obvious that a self-driving camera-based software would take advantage of headlights on a car, just like a human does? So it never has to drive in full darkness.

PKop 9y ago

You missed the analogy: Darkness is to eyesight as inclement weather/obstacles is to LIDAR

JshWright 9y ago
What's the point of that analogy? Darkness can be fixed with lights on the vehicle itself. Inclement weather is entirely outside the control of the vehicle.
- vsl 9y ago
  LIDAR doesn't work in inclement weather, that's the point.
sqeaky 9y ago
Our eyes also come with our brains packed full of fancy algorithms to extract value from minimal information. I am not sure what software does with noise from a lidar sensor but I have seen data from other noisy sensors and they are often useless.

kamaal 9y ago

Actually you will need more than a camera input, may be even a sound input. In darkness it helps if you can hear the vehicles coming close.

cr0sh 9y ago
> may be even a sound input Bingo. When we drive a vehicle, we use so much more than just our eyes to sense the environment, and hearing plays a very large part. I believe that it is something that warrants research for self-driving vehicle usage; I don't know if anyone has done such research, but I haven't seen any papers on it yet. If not, it seems like an underappreciated sensor aspect that could potentially greatly augment self-driving vehicle capabilities, and would be a very simple and cheap sensor to add to a vehicle as well. EDIT: Found this recent article... https://www.technologyreview.com/s/604272/a-sense-of-hearing-could-make-cars-safer-and-more-reliable/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/604272/a-sense-of-hearing... While it seems to be focused mainly on diagnosing issues with vehicles before they become larger problems, there are hints about it being used for self-driving tasks as well.
- Diederich 9y ago
  I think you're implying that deaf drivers are fundamentally less safe than hearing drivers. Studies have been highly mixed: http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/topics/deaf-drivers.htm http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/topics/deaf-drivers.htm I would be comfortable saying that the advantages a deaf, many eyed, always alert self driving system would far outweigh the safety of a hearing, two eyed and sometimes alert human driver.