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Thanks for posting this, I think I just found my next phone. Can anyone comment on what the development story is like? It looks like it's just as complicated a

by flukus 9y ago

Thanks for posting this, I think I just found my next phone. Can anyone comment on what the development story is like? It looks like it's just as complicated as android, but I want to be able to just write c++ code and a makefile in vim and not bother with QtCreator and especially all that qml rubbish.

johannesburgel 9y ago
Well, technically you can also just use Vim and a Makefile to write C++ code for Android. SDL2 has backends for all the Android stuff, for example, as does Qt5.
- pjmlp 9y ago
  With lots of fun writing JNI wrappers, and wrapping Gradle calls into that Makefile. Google is pretty clear that the NDK is only intended for writing games, high performance audio, or making native code available to Java.
maheart 9y ago
> Can anyone comment on what the development story is like? I can. I've developed and released an app for SailfishOS, and am currently in the process of developing a second one. I do all my app development in emacs, and VirtualBox (running an i486 version of SailfishOS). My app's written in Python. The UI parts are written in QML (basically JS). I have a Makefile that does an assortment of things for me (setup dev env, package application, clean up stuff). My second app is going to be written in Python and Go, with the UI once again in QML. It's real Linux underneath, so you can write your application any way you like (as long as it runs on Linux/arm). However, it's easiest to write the UI in QML, as it handles all the input/widgets for you.
- mpol 9y ago
  Which app is it? And do you have the source and Makefiles available? I would really love to see that, and maybe even get going there. I am still in doubt if I should learn Qt or Python.
  - maheart 9y ago
    I'd prefer not to disclose the name of the app, as it would tie this account to my real name. gPodder (https://openrepos.net/content/thp/gpodder https://openrepos.net/content/thp/gpodder) is perhaps the most popular SailfishOS app written in Python and QML. You can find a lot of FOSS apps (developed in C++, Python, etc.) on OpenRepos (https://openrepos.net/ https://openrepos.net/).
    - mpol 9y ago
      Thank you. I will look at this for some inspiration.

by flukus 9y ago

johannesburgel 9y ago

Well, technically you can also just use Vim and a Makefile to write C++ code for Android. SDL2 has backends for all the Android stuff, for example, as does Qt5.

pjmlp 9y ago
With lots of fun writing JNI wrappers, and wrapping Gradle calls into that Makefile. Google is pretty clear that the NDK is only intended for writing games, high performance audio, or making native code available to Java.

maheart 9y ago

> Can anyone comment on what the development story is like? I can. I've developed and released an app for SailfishOS, and am currently in the process of developing a second one. I do all my app development in emacs, and VirtualBox (running an i486 version of SailfishOS). My app's written in Python. The UI parts are written in QML (basically JS). I have a Makefile that does an assortment of things for me (setup dev env, package application, clean up stuff). My second app is going to be written in Python and Go, with the UI once again in QML. It's real Linux underneath, so you can write your application any way you like (as long as it runs on Linux/arm). However, it's easiest to write the UI in QML, as it handles all the input/widgets for you.

mpol 9y ago
Which app is it? And do you have the source and Makefiles available? I would really love to see that, and maybe even get going there. I am still in doubt if I should learn Qt or Python.
- maheart 9y ago
  I'd prefer not to disclose the name of the app, as it would tie this account to my real name. gPodder (https://openrepos.net/content/thp/gpodder https://openrepos.net/content/thp/gpodder) is perhaps the most popular SailfishOS app written in Python and QML. You can find a lot of FOSS apps (developed in C++, Python, etc.) on OpenRepos (https://openrepos.net/ https://openrepos.net/).
  - mpol 9y ago
    Thank you. I will look at this for some inspiration.