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I'm having all my music stored as Flac and automatically converted as Opus to my phone. I couldn't be happier to the quality and encoding speed. The only thing

by pimeys 9y ago

I'm having all my music stored as Flac and automatically converted as Opus to my phone. I couldn't be happier to the quality and encoding speed. The only thing I think I should've done different is to use a lower bitrate than 192 kbps to store more music to the memory card. I reasoned the additional lossy encoding of Bluetooth would be too much with lower bitrates, but now I'm not so sure...

shmerl 9y ago
Yep, I do the same thing. I try to buy music only in FLAC, and then encode to Opus for playback.
- pimeys 9y ago
  Although I'm not that happy with the replay gain support in Opus, so at work and at home I listen to the Flac files.
StavrosK 9y ago
Does Android support Opus natively? One would hope so, given how open Opus is.
- cyphar 9y ago
  You can play them in VLC, but a few years ago I remember that Opus wasn't recognised by Android's "media service" (meaning the native players couldn't even detect the existence of Opus files). It's probably changed since then though. EDIT: It looks like TFA says that Android does use Opus: > Opus is now widely deployed on a large range of platforms and devices (including Android, iOS, and all major browsers) and is exposed to untrusted data.
  - floatboth 9y ago
    Opus in Ogg is natively supported on Android. The extension needs to be .ogg not .opus.
    - cyphar 9y ago
      What about matroska (specifically .mka)?
- derf_ 9y ago
  It's required by the Android Compatibility Definition Document (in both MKV and Ogg containers), and it's been there since v5.0: https://source.android.com/compatibility/android-cdd.pdf https://source.android.com/compatibility/android-cdd.pdf
- ac29 9y ago
  Yes, since 5.0: https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/media-formats.html https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/media-forma... That claims they need to be in a MKV container, but I just use the output of opusenc.
  - indolering 9y ago
    I heard their implementation was really poor?
  - floatboth 9y ago
    Ogg container works, and the extension needs to be .ogg not .opus.
- Veratyr 9y ago
  Android supports the codec but there are issues with the MediaStore and how it deals with containers and file extensions. My tests (on a Pixel running 7.0 and the O beta) have determined that Opus is usually fine as long as the container and file extensions are both Ogg. I have had a few issues with certain files but I'm not sure why yet, I suspect it's album art or something. I don't believe Android <= 6.0 supports Opus as audio on its own. The CDD initially only required support for Opus in a Matroska container and I attempted to put an Opus-only Matroska file on my phone and none of the players were able to play it. As of either 6.0 or 7.0 (can't remember which), Ogg support is required though.
- pimeys 9y ago
  I've been using Rocket Player with my Android 7 phone and it plays Opus just fine. Money well spent to the pro version. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrtstudio.AnotherMusicPlayer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrtstudio....

by pimeys 9y ago

shmerl 9y ago

Yep, I do the same thing. I try to buy music only in FLAC, and then encode to Opus for playback.

pimeys 9y ago
Although I'm not that happy with the replay gain support in Opus, so at work and at home I listen to the Flac files.

StavrosK 9y ago

Does Android support Opus natively? One would hope so, given how open Opus is.

cyphar 9y ago
You can play them in VLC, but a few years ago I remember that Opus wasn't recognised by Android's "media service" (meaning the native players couldn't even detect the existence of Opus files). It's probably changed since then though. EDIT: It looks like TFA says that Android does use Opus: > Opus is now widely deployed on a large range of platforms and devices (including Android, iOS, and all major browsers) and is exposed to untrusted data.
- floatboth 9y ago
  Opus in Ogg is natively supported on Android. The extension needs to be .ogg not .opus.
  - cyphar 9y ago
    What about matroska (specifically .mka)?
derf_ 9y ago
It's required by the Android Compatibility Definition Document (in both MKV and Ogg containers), and it's been there since v5.0: https://source.android.com/compatibility/android-cdd.pdf https://source.android.com/compatibility/android-cdd.pdf
ac29 9y ago
Yes, since 5.0: https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/media-formats.html https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/media-forma... That claims they need to be in a MKV container, but I just use the output of opusenc.
- indolering 9y ago
  I heard their implementation was really poor?
- floatboth 9y ago
  Ogg container works, and the extension needs to be .ogg not .opus.
Veratyr 9y ago
Android supports the codec but there are issues with the MediaStore and how it deals with containers and file extensions. My tests (on a Pixel running 7.0 and the O beta) have determined that Opus is usually fine as long as the container and file extensions are both Ogg. I have had a few issues with certain files but I'm not sure why yet, I suspect it's album art or something. I don't believe Android <= 6.0 supports Opus as audio on its own. The CDD initially only required support for Opus in a Matroska container and I attempted to put an Opus-only Matroska file on my phone and none of the players were able to play it. As of either 6.0 or 7.0 (can't remember which), Ogg support is required though.
pimeys 9y ago
I've been using Rocket Player with my Android 7 phone and it plays Opus just fine. Money well spent to the pro version. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrtstudio.AnotherMusicPlayer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrtstudio....