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Because they still can't read your email, nobody can, even thought it is on their servers and crossing Swiss borders.

Caprinicus 9y ago
Then they should stop claiming that switzerland is protecting them to a degree that they aren't anymore, and explain why their encryption is still secure
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bogomipz 9y ago
I was asking why I would choose them as a VPN provider over any of the others.
earenndil 9y ago
See now, this is the part I don't get. Assuming that you don't encrypt your email with pgp (reasonable, if you're emailing someone who isn't very techy) and aren't emailing someone else who also uses protonmail, there's nothing stopping them from making an unencrypted copy of every email they receive.
- zeta0134 9y ago
  I was trying to do some research to refute this claim, and my ignorance of email standards has once again reared its ugly head. I thought DKIM was for encryption, but it's apparently just for verification? Email is still primarily sent in the clear? I'm at a loss. What a mess.
  - DKnoll 9y ago
    Domain Keys Identified Mail. ;)
  - johnp_ 9y ago
    DKIM solves authenticity and integrity, but not privacy.
  - simon_acca 9y ago
    Email is not primarily sent in the clear these days, most providers implement SMTP over SSL/TLS, here you can find some nice stats of such traffic that passes trough google[0]. Of course this means that emails are only encrypted "in transit", that is, in the transmission from server to server, so you have to trust your provider. On the contrary, PGP gives you end-to-end encryption, so you only have to trust your machine and your correspondent 's. 0: https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/saferemail/ https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/saferemail/
- teekert 9y ago
  The decryption only takes place on your local machine. Of course, you'd either have to check the source or, trust them. It very often comes down to trust.

Then they should stop claiming that switzerland is protecting them to a degree that they aren't anymore, and explain why their encryption is still secure

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bogomipz 9y ago

I was asking why I would choose them as a VPN provider over any of the others.

earenndil 9y ago

See now, this is the part I don't get. Assuming that you don't encrypt your email with pgp (reasonable, if you're emailing someone who isn't very techy) and aren't emailing someone else who also uses protonmail, there's nothing stopping them from making an unencrypted copy of every email they receive.

zeta0134 9y ago
I was trying to do some research to refute this claim, and my ignorance of email standards has once again reared its ugly head. I thought DKIM was for encryption, but it's apparently just for verification? Email is still primarily sent in the clear? I'm at a loss. What a mess.
- DKnoll 9y ago
  Domain Keys Identified Mail. ;)
- johnp_ 9y ago
  DKIM solves authenticity and integrity, but not privacy.
- simon_acca 9y ago
  Email is not primarily sent in the clear these days, most providers implement SMTP over SSL/TLS, here you can find some nice stats of such traffic that passes trough google[0]. Of course this means that emails are only encrypted "in transit", that is, in the transmission from server to server, so you have to trust your provider. On the contrary, PGP gives you end-to-end encryption, so you only have to trust your machine and your correspondent 's. 0: https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/saferemail/ https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/saferemail/
teekert 9y ago
The decryption only takes place on your local machine. Of course, you'd either have to check the source or, trust them. It very often comes down to trust.