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https://juliacomputing.com/products/ https://juliacomputing.com/products/ - JuliaPro is the go-to product for anyone who wants to use Julia – professionals, en

https://juliacomputing.com/products/ https://juliacomputing.com/products/ - JuliaPro is the go-to product for anyone who wants to use Julia – professionals, engineers, software developers and data scientists. Beginners and experts can build better software quicker and dramatically improve performance. - JuliaRun is for scalable deployment of Julia in production for real time analytics and large-scale parallel simulations in the public cloud or a private cluster. - JuliaBox lets data scientists, quants and strats run Julia in Jupyter notebooks right in the browser. JuliaBox is the number one choice for universities teaching Julia since students can get started with Julia in seconds with no installation required. - JuliaFin is a suite of Julia packages that simplify the workflow for quantitative finance, reducing the gap between the quant and the trader. JuliaFin provides the fastest path from market data to market transactions by leveraging the full power of Julia for implementing new trading strategies where time is of the essence. EDIT: Oh, and consulting/training: https://juliacomputing.com/services/ https://juliacomputing.com/services/

SolarNet 9y ago
Answering the actual question: JuliaPro is basically VisualStudio Express vs. Pro (e.g. there's a free version and then an expensive version with better integrations, better enterprise level tools, etc). JuliaRun is basically a cloud service (e.g. charge for hosting) designed for julia code. JuliaBox seems to be a cloud IDE / google docs / notebook style product. Probably with a similar model to github eventually (e.g. pay for teams / commercial use, etc). JuliaFin seems to be a way to charge banks a lot more money for the same stuff.
- simonbyrne 9y ago
  - JuliaPro is free, but the paid version comes with support and integration with Excel and JuliaRun (possibly more features in future). - JuliaRun is for easily scalable deployment of code, either for cloud or local servers. - JuliaBox is as you say, available here https://juliabox.com/ https://juliabox.com/ - JuliaFin is completely separate, and currently consists of Bloomberg integration and the Miletus contract specification and pricing package. (I work for Julia Computing)
  - jordigh 9y ago
    Hey, I'd be interested in knowing if you're just selling plain ol' non-free software. Can I buy the PRO version and give it to my friends, can I study it, can I modify it? It's a little sad when we are trying to figure out how to make money for free software and the answer ends up being "sell (some) software non-freely". Okay, so it's impossible to make money without selling non-free software? There can only be one Red Hat in the world? I don't think it's any consolation that you are also producing free software; pretty much every major software vendor nowadays does that while keeping all the interesting secret sauce secret.
    - thebooktocome 9y ago
      Having explored this option somewhat recently, I assure you: it is just plain, old, non-free software.
    - simonbyrne 9y ago
      > Can I buy the PRO version and give it to my friends, can I study it, can I modify it? Mostly: JuliaPro is essentially a nice convenient installer of a huge collection of open source work (though I can't say for sure, as I'm not really involved in that part). A few small components (e.g. the Excel plugin) are not open, and we are moving to MKL for some stuff, so that will change slightly though. Open source business models are hard (as you're no doubt aware). You may disagree, but I think Julia Computing has so far done a good job of balancing the open source vs business aspect, which is part of the reason I originally joined.
  - walshemj 9y ago
    I would say that NOT having excel integration would be a feature :-)
- ViralBShah 9y ago
  JuliaFin actually includes a bunch more stuff on top of JuliaPro/JuliaRun that is finance/banking/insurance specific. We have a really cool library called Miletus - which is a contract specification language based on a paper by simon peyton jones. Also, it will include JuliaDB, Bloomberg connectivity, etc. So, not more money for the same stuff, but more money for a lot more other stuff. Some of these components are proprietary, but many are open source.
jordigh 9y ago
So, are they just selling plain ol' non-free software? The "PRO" features seem to be ripping out the GPL libraries so they can link to MKL with a support contract. I have hope this means that the paid version is also free software. https://juliacomputing.com/products/juliapro.html https://juliacomputing.com/products/juliapro.html
- coldtea 9y ago
  >So, are they just selling plain ol' non-free software? Or, as we used to call it, just "software". They're selling software.
  - jordigh 9y ago
    Right, but selling non-free software isn't interesting for those of us who really want to see more businesses thrive around free software. If it's really impossible to make money without selling non-free software, then Julia isn't very interesting from an economic perspective. If Julia hasn't figured out how to make money without restricting customers via legal or technical means, trying to lock them in, or putting software in their machines that controls their machines without the full knowledge and consent of the users (i.e. source code and permission), then I'm not really interested in what they're doing economically.
wott 9y ago
> JuliaBox is the number one choice for universities teaching Julia since students can get started with Julia in seconds with no installation required. I don't understand. Julia is not stable at all yet. Who would want to teach it now? What would be the point?
- apesti 9y ago
  I recently used Julia in my numerical analysis course and it worked well for the most part. We couldn't use it for some of the larger projects because it wasn't as optimized as MATLAB for certain matrix operations. However, it was great most of the time and better than using MATLAB on the university computers.
  - elcritch 9y ago
    Implementing a missing matrix operator might make a great class project for a numerical methods course. ;)

SolarNet 9y ago

Answering the actual question: JuliaPro is basically VisualStudio Express vs. Pro (e.g. there's a free version and then an expensive version with better integrations, better enterprise level tools, etc). JuliaRun is basically a cloud service (e.g. charge for hosting) designed for julia code. JuliaBox seems to be a cloud IDE / google docs / notebook style product. Probably with a similar model to github eventually (e.g. pay for teams / commercial use, etc). JuliaFin seems to be a way to charge banks a lot more money for the same stuff.

simonbyrne 9y ago
- JuliaPro is free, but the paid version comes with support and integration with Excel and JuliaRun (possibly more features in future). - JuliaRun is for easily scalable deployment of code, either for cloud or local servers. - JuliaBox is as you say, available here https://juliabox.com/ https://juliabox.com/ - JuliaFin is completely separate, and currently consists of Bloomberg integration and the Miletus contract specification and pricing package. (I work for Julia Computing)
- jordigh 9y ago
  Hey, I'd be interested in knowing if you're just selling plain ol' non-free software. Can I buy the PRO version and give it to my friends, can I study it, can I modify it? It's a little sad when we are trying to figure out how to make money for free software and the answer ends up being "sell (some) software non-freely". Okay, so it's impossible to make money without selling non-free software? There can only be one Red Hat in the world? I don't think it's any consolation that you are also producing free software; pretty much every major software vendor nowadays does that while keeping all the interesting secret sauce secret.
  - thebooktocome 9y ago
    Having explored this option somewhat recently, I assure you: it is just plain, old, non-free software.
  - simonbyrne 9y ago
    > Can I buy the PRO version and give it to my friends, can I study it, can I modify it? Mostly: JuliaPro is essentially a nice convenient installer of a huge collection of open source work (though I can't say for sure, as I'm not really involved in that part). A few small components (e.g. the Excel plugin) are not open, and we are moving to MKL for some stuff, so that will change slightly though. Open source business models are hard (as you're no doubt aware). You may disagree, but I think Julia Computing has so far done a good job of balancing the open source vs business aspect, which is part of the reason I originally joined.
- walshemj 9y ago
  I would say that NOT having excel integration would be a feature :-)
ViralBShah 9y ago
JuliaFin actually includes a bunch more stuff on top of JuliaPro/JuliaRun that is finance/banking/insurance specific. We have a really cool library called Miletus - which is a contract specification language based on a paper by simon peyton jones. Also, it will include JuliaDB, Bloomberg connectivity, etc. So, not more money for the same stuff, but more money for a lot more other stuff. Some of these components are proprietary, but many are open source.

jordigh 9y ago

So, are they just selling plain ol' non-free software? The "PRO" features seem to be ripping out the GPL libraries so they can link to MKL with a support contract. I have hope this means that the paid version is also free software. https://juliacomputing.com/products/juliapro.html https://juliacomputing.com/products/juliapro.html

coldtea 9y ago
>So, are they just selling plain ol' non-free software? Or, as we used to call it, just "software". They're selling software.
- jordigh 9y ago
  Right, but selling non-free software isn't interesting for those of us who really want to see more businesses thrive around free software. If it's really impossible to make money without selling non-free software, then Julia isn't very interesting from an economic perspective. If Julia hasn't figured out how to make money without restricting customers via legal or technical means, trying to lock them in, or putting software in their machines that controls their machines without the full knowledge and consent of the users (i.e. source code and permission), then I'm not really interested in what they're doing economically.

wott 9y ago

> JuliaBox is the number one choice for universities teaching Julia since students can get started with Julia in seconds with no installation required. I don't understand. Julia is not stable at all yet. Who would want to teach it now? What would be the point?

apesti 9y ago
I recently used Julia in my numerical analysis course and it worked well for the most part. We couldn't use it for some of the larger projects because it wasn't as optimized as MATLAB for certain matrix operations. However, it was great most of the time and better than using MATLAB on the university computers.
- elcritch 9y ago
  Implementing a missing matrix operator might make a great class project for a numerical methods course. ;)