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You''re describing good recruiters, which are rare and far between. The majority is spam unfortunately. The problem I think is the incentive structure. When you

You''re describing good recruiters, which are rare and far between. The majority is spam unfortunately. The problem I think is the incentive structure. When you see human beings as nothing more than a commission, the tactics get cutthroat.

jnordwick 9y ago
I deal with more good recruiters than bad recruiters. I'm picky and the industry might make a big difference. I also spend the time to really talk to the recruiter the first couple times so he knows a lot about me and what I'm looking for. And i don't feel he would work out for me, i don't work with him. I takes communication and i think part of the problem is on the job seekers side. Too many are uncommunicative.
- ryandrake 9y ago
  Any recommendations? The only recruiters I've ever interacted with are working for or on behalf of employers. They're looking to fill their position and if I'm not that person, I don't hear from them ever again. It would be awesome to have someone always out there looking on my behalf. Does that kind of recruiter even exist?
  - peteretep 9y ago
    You are describing external recruiters, and there are many. Try and find one specialising in your niche, if you have one.
  - jnordwick 9y ago
    In-house recruiters are a lot different. I've met some very persistent ones that even after you say not interested they keep calling you (I'm glad one did because he broke me down and i finally interviewed and had great success at the company). To find new external recruiters i look at the job listings (Indeed, LinkedIn, etc) and see if i notice the same recruiting firm listed at jobs i find interesting. Then i get in touch with the recruiter directly and have a discussion with him. So i kind of look for recruiters more than i look for jobs.
- eloisant 9y ago
  I've had good experiences with in-house recruiters, i.e. employed by the company who wants to hire me.
exclusiv 9y ago
Agreed. There's a lot of snakes in the biz. I had to tell one to turn his auto-dialer down because it was annoying me. If I didn't answer he'd be hitting me up several times per day every day. Then he'd lie about not having an auto-dialer. They want huge commissions but they don't add a lot of value. That commission is almost always way more than it would cost me for my time to recruit from my own network or through traditional means. Many of them never even meet their candidates. When I was in the market a long time ago - they would prep me with what to say to the hiring company even if it wasn't part of my skill-set at the time. That's very dishonest. I'm an employer and they'll call me and immediately start talking about a candidate. They'll ramble on and on about how great their candidate is even though I'm not hiring or I'm only hiring for a different role. Part of their strategy is to push a candidate on you, get you to like them and then talk about their commission only if necessary. They get really squeamish if you ask about commission.

jnordwick 9y ago

I deal with more good recruiters than bad recruiters. I'm picky and the industry might make a big difference. I also spend the time to really talk to the recruiter the first couple times so he knows a lot about me and what I'm looking for. And i don't feel he would work out for me, i don't work with him. I takes communication and i think part of the problem is on the job seekers side. Too many are uncommunicative.

ryandrake 9y ago
Any recommendations? The only recruiters I've ever interacted with are working for or on behalf of employers. They're looking to fill their position and if I'm not that person, I don't hear from them ever again. It would be awesome to have someone always out there looking on my behalf. Does that kind of recruiter even exist?
- peteretep 9y ago
  You are describing external recruiters, and there are many. Try and find one specialising in your niche, if you have one.
- jnordwick 9y ago
  In-house recruiters are a lot different. I've met some very persistent ones that even after you say not interested they keep calling you (I'm glad one did because he broke me down and i finally interviewed and had great success at the company). To find new external recruiters i look at the job listings (Indeed, LinkedIn, etc) and see if i notice the same recruiting firm listed at jobs i find interesting. Then i get in touch with the recruiter directly and have a discussion with him. So i kind of look for recruiters more than i look for jobs.
eloisant 9y ago
I've had good experiences with in-house recruiters, i.e. employed by the company who wants to hire me.

exclusiv 9y ago

Agreed. There's a lot of snakes in the biz. I had to tell one to turn his auto-dialer down because it was annoying me. If I didn't answer he'd be hitting me up several times per day every day. Then he'd lie about not having an auto-dialer. They want huge commissions but they don't add a lot of value. That commission is almost always way more than it would cost me for my time to recruit from my own network or through traditional means. Many of them never even meet their candidates. When I was in the market a long time ago - they would prep me with what to say to the hiring company even if it wasn't part of my skill-set at the time. That's very dishonest. I'm an employer and they'll call me and immediately start talking about a candidate. They'll ramble on and on about how great their candidate is even though I'm not hiring or I'm only hiring for a different role. Part of their strategy is to push a candidate on you, get you to like them and then talk about their commission only if necessary. They get really squeamish if you ask about commission.