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My ex-manager who left Google to another well established company once said the most missed thing from Google was the ability to work remotely right away on cor
by yegle 9y ago
My ex-manager who left Google to another well established company once said the most missed thing from Google was the ability to work remotely right away on corp laptop with BeyondCorp.
Disclaimer I work for Google not related to BeyondCorp.
- izacus 9y agoI thought Google doesn't allow remote work?
- michaelbuckbee 9y agoRemote meaning on the Google Bus on the way to the office.
- mikejmoffitt 9y agoI don't know why people are negatively marking your post, because this is a thing a lot of people do and it does feel like there is a bit of a stigma to do so.
- matttproud 9y agoOr working on the boat, as we at Google Zürich do: http://goo.gl/P9CA69 http://goo.gl/P9CA69 Or working on the train: http://goo.gl/mPZKcc http://goo.gl/mPZKcc
- sumitgt 9y agoWell, even if you don't work remotely, you routinely need to access corp resources from outside office.
- wsetchell 9y agoOn my team (and most other teams) it is cool to work from home or a different office occasionally.
- Kurtz79 9y agoRemote work can be intended also as in "you are at a customer facility and need to access the corporate intranet to get a document or access the SW repository".
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- theDoug 9y agoThis is incorrect! I began as a full-time remote employee and stayed so for 16 months until it made more sense for me to move to HQ. There are hundreds of remote workers, but being local has definitely allowed me to not need to rely on email and video chats so heavily. (Disclosure: Google employee)
- EGreg 9y agoHow does one request full-time work in the interview? Is it normal to do it during the onboarding process?
- theDoug 9y agoFull-time remote work? If you're going to reach an agreement on where you will live and work it's better to do it as early in the process as possible. I'd say WELL before onboarding and interview. Like conversation #1 with the recruiter/internal contact. It's about mutual understanding and respect, and making sure your physical position would provide value. The smaller the team, the better, but it's 100% on you to explain when there are 70,000 counter-examples in play. Same would go for discussing why a certain regional office (like Seattle) would maybe work vs. Mountain View. You have to be where you will give your best work to your self and team. I got really tired of flying back and forth and holding meetings being the one remote person out of ~12-20 got really ridiculous, so a move was inevitable for me.
- jon-wood 9y agoWhen I'm applying for jobs I'll open with an email to their recruiter saying that I'm interested and intend to apply, but only if they can confirm they're open to me working remotely the majority of the time, I also mention my expected salary range. Doing it that way saves us both time and hassle in going through the motions only to find down the line that it would never have worked out because of either work arrangements or salary.
- milesward 9y agoI concur: I'm typing this from my home office in Palm Springs, and I'm a Director at Google.
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- skybrian 9y agoWorking remotely part of the time is common. Full time seems rare, and I've known people who had to find another job when their office closed.
- DorothySim 9y agoI think the only restriction is working on Google approved hardware so no BYOD there. (Disclosure: not a Google employee).
- maxsaltonstall 9y agoBring Your Own Device is fine for ChromeOS and Mobile. You might not get the full amount of trust as a Google-issued device (for mobile/tablet). To achieve the highest levels of access in the BeyondCorp model you need a machine with Google's management agents, so we can evaluate device state accurately and pull information from our inventory management system.
- DorothySim 9y agoBut if you don't provision the device yourself how can you be sure it hasn't been tampered with in a way that just displays "bootloader OK, everything good" but in the mean time it was rooted? Or is that a risk calculated in the "no full amount of trust"?
- ariwilson 9y agohttps://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/verified-boot https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/...
- kuschku 9y agoThat protects against newbies, but we’re talking here about Google employees – modifying and cloning the ICs on the board to fake a verified boot status should be a triviality for people who design their own chips and boards for Google’s own servers, right?
- johnmaguire2013 9y agoOn a Google-approved device, you can still use that device, and copy content to another, non-Google-approved device. Nothing is perfect, but at some point you trust your employees.
- AceJohnny2 9y agoMaybe you're confused with Yahoo? https://www.fastcompany.com/3020930/yahoo-says-that-killing-working-from-home-is-turning-out-perfectly https://www.fastcompany.com/3020930/yahoo-says-that-killing-... They're very, very different companies/work culture :)
- gogopuppygogo 9y agoOne is in the technology industry. The other is managing its shares in Alibaba. Very different needs.
- quotemstr 9y agoFor a big company, Google is surprisingly willing to make the right thing happen in individual cases. My sense is that Google's ban on working from home is a strong default, a rebuttable presumption that working from home would be a bad idea in a given situation. Rebuttable presumptions can be rebutted.
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- cmrdporcupine 9y agoIt's quite rare to have a full time WFH situation. But WFH once or twice a week is quite common. At least in my office.
- yegle 9y agoThis is for an SRE role who would need to work during on call, or for whatever reason decide to WFH. I think pure remote role is still allowed but that's not what I mean.
- nunez 9y agothey do; many teams discourage it though
- VectorLock 9y agoIs logging into a VPN in 3 seconds and starting to work not "right away" enough?
- yegle 9y agoMaintaining a stateful VPN connection is much harder than making a stateless HTTP request.
- problems 9y agoModern VPN solutions allow for full IP roaming. Nothing to maintain really. I see what these guys are trying to get at - its essentially how I run distributed services for my small business, but having a VPN in front of those is still a more secure option. VPN should not mean the keys to the kingdom and should indeed be restricted to a subset of explicitly exposed services.