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Nokia are insane. They seem to be intent on destroying any chance of success for their new interesting phones. They announce the N900 and then soon after give

by doublec 16y ago

Nokia are insane. They seem to be intent on destroying any chance of success for their new interesting phones. They announce the N900 and then soon after give a confusing message about MeeGo being the way forward and it not being supported officially on the N900. They deprecated the device almost immediately it became available. What commercial developer would try to produce applications for it now? Now they announce the N8 with the amazing Symbian^3. Everything will be awesome about it according to press releases. Now, even before it becomes available Nokia announces it'll be the last N series device running Symbian. Another device deprecated just as it gets out the door. Nokia, I used to like your devices. You made great phones. But please give them some future proofing and stop abandoning them the moment you release them.

jarek 16y ago
I agree with the general spirit of your post, but IIANM Maemo apps will work on MeeGo and vice versa with minimal effort. Not to mention Maemo's been around for over four years now -- significantly longer than the iPlatform's existed. Anyway, let's see how long MeeGo sticks as the go-to platform.
- wmf 16y ago
  Maemo has been around for a while, but it keeps changing. Maemo 4 had a stylus UI, Maemo 5 switched to a fairly different finger UI, Maemo 6/MeeGo 1.0 is planning to introduce multitouch and replace Gtk with Qt, etc. What breakage will MeeGo 2 bring us?
  - mbrubeck 16y ago
    They've also abandoned each generation of Maemo hardware shockingly fast as new models came out. I still have a Nokia 770 running OS 2007. After the N800 was released with OS 2008, the Nokia 770 never received a supported upgrade. (There is "OS 2008 Hacker Edition" for the 770, but its performance and stability was noticeably degraded compared to OS 2007.) I'm glad to hear they'll be focusing on Meego as their flagship OS, since it's been at best a hobby until now. But somehow the platform has had as much fragmentation as Android even though they are a single company producing all the hardware and software (and only four models ever produced, at that).
  - jarek 16y ago
    I don't know about Gtk/Qt, but the 4/5 change is a difference, not a breakage: the N900 comes with a stylus, so your Maemo 4 stylus apps will work fine. Think of it as pre-notifications vs notifications vs limited backgrounding functionality changes on iOS. The older apps still work fine, they're just not taking full advantage of the newer features.
  - sjs 16y ago
    It sucks for app devs but it's good for the customer. Until the platform has matured halting progress is a bad idea. Otherwise you're stuck supporting legacy crap forever and cannot move forward fast enough, especially in the mobile space. You could argue that Nokia should have been doing this R&D behind closed doors but considering the openness of the platform that may or may not have been a wise choice.
olaf 16y ago
> and stop abandoning them the moment you release them. Well said. I just perceive that company at least as customer unfriendly, maybe even -condemning.

by doublec 16y ago

jarek 16y ago

I agree with the general spirit of your post, but IIANM Maemo apps will work on MeeGo and vice versa with minimal effort. Not to mention Maemo's been around for over four years now -- significantly longer than the iPlatform's existed. Anyway, let's see how long MeeGo sticks as the go-to platform.

wmf 16y ago
Maemo has been around for a while, but it keeps changing. Maemo 4 had a stylus UI, Maemo 5 switched to a fairly different finger UI, Maemo 6/MeeGo 1.0 is planning to introduce multitouch and replace Gtk with Qt, etc. What breakage will MeeGo 2 bring us?
- mbrubeck 16y ago
  They've also abandoned each generation of Maemo hardware shockingly fast as new models came out. I still have a Nokia 770 running OS 2007. After the N800 was released with OS 2008, the Nokia 770 never received a supported upgrade. (There is "OS 2008 Hacker Edition" for the 770, but its performance and stability was noticeably degraded compared to OS 2007.) I'm glad to hear they'll be focusing on Meego as their flagship OS, since it's been at best a hobby until now. But somehow the platform has had as much fragmentation as Android even though they are a single company producing all the hardware and software (and only four models ever produced, at that).
- jarek 16y ago
  I don't know about Gtk/Qt, but the 4/5 change is a difference, not a breakage: the N900 comes with a stylus, so your Maemo 4 stylus apps will work fine. Think of it as pre-notifications vs notifications vs limited backgrounding functionality changes on iOS. The older apps still work fine, they're just not taking full advantage of the newer features.
- sjs 16y ago
  It sucks for app devs but it's good for the customer. Until the platform has matured halting progress is a bad idea. Otherwise you're stuck supporting legacy crap forever and cannot move forward fast enough, especially in the mobile space. You could argue that Nokia should have been doing this R&D behind closed doors but considering the openness of the platform that may or may not have been a wise choice.

olaf 16y ago

> and stop abandoning them the moment you release them. Well said. I just perceive that company at least as customer unfriendly, maybe even -condemning.