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Your house!? I think this misses the elephant in the room. Large industrial machinery. Data centers. Manufacturing. Electrified transportation. At the place I

Your house!? I think this misses the elephant in the room. Large industrial machinery. Data centers. Manufacturing. Electrified transportation. At the place I work, we use more electricity in a single, 19 inch high density server rack than your entire neighborhood. We have rooms full of batteries like the Tesla Powerwall and would be lucky if they could operate for 10 minutes.

rb808 9y ago
> Large industrial machinery. Data centers. Manufacturing The good thing is these loads are relatively constant and predictable. One reasons electricity is expensive is the peak loads are much higher than a regular day - you need a power station (or storage) on standby for that hot day when everyone suddenly runs their AC continuously all afternoon. >Electrified transportation This is different and a good opportunity that the article talks about. Esp a plugin hybrid could charge on windy sunny days and not charge in the peak times as above.
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adrianN 9y ago
Huge loads like Aluminium smelters are already "smart" and cooperate with the electricity providers, so there is not as much left to gain there.
- askvictor 9y ago
  Yes and no; you can't just switch off an aluminium smelter with destroying it; it takes quite a bit of time to ramp it down. I think that for forecast high demand they shut down production in a planned way.
philipkglass 9y ago
In the United States, more electricity is used residentially than commercially or industrially (4.8, 4.6, and 3.2 quads respectively in 2016): https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/content/assets/images/energy/us/Energy_US_2016.png https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/content/assets/images/energy/us/...
pjc50 9y ago
This is not nearly upvoted enough. The mentality is the same as the California water crisis: ignore the big industrial uses like agriculture, instead pester people to run taps for a few seconds less.

rb808 9y ago

> Large industrial machinery. Data centers. Manufacturing The good thing is these loads are relatively constant and predictable. One reasons electricity is expensive is the peak loads are much higher than a regular day - you need a power station (or storage) on standby for that hot day when everyone suddenly runs their AC continuously all afternoon. >Electrified transportation This is different and a good opportunity that the article talks about. Esp a plugin hybrid could charge on windy sunny days and not charge in the peak times as above.

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adrianN 9y ago

Huge loads like Aluminium smelters are already "smart" and cooperate with the electricity providers, so there is not as much left to gain there.

askvictor 9y ago
Yes and no; you can't just switch off an aluminium smelter with destroying it; it takes quite a bit of time to ramp it down. I think that for forecast high demand they shut down production in a planned way.

philipkglass 9y ago

In the United States, more electricity is used residentially than commercially or industrially (4.8, 4.6, and 3.2 quads respectively in 2016): https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/content/assets/images/energy/us/Energy_US_2016.png https://flowcharts.llnl.gov/content/assets/images/energy/us/...

pjc50 9y ago

This is not nearly upvoted enough. The mentality is the same as the California water crisis: ignore the big industrial uses like agriculture, instead pester people to run taps for a few seconds less.