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> Also, most of us run a load just before going to bed, and shuffle it to the dryer in the morning. Not if you care about the longevity of your clothing and mi
by settsu 9y ago
> Also, most of us run a load just before going to bed, and shuffle it to the dryer in the morning.
Not if you care about the longevity of your clothing and mildew in your washer.
I don't know anyone who does this routinely on purpose.
- wernercd 9y agoHow much mildew is going to build up if it starts an hour or two later? Or sits in washer for a few hours after finish? Waiting days? Sure... random-internet-answer(s) seem to hover around 24-48 hours before mildew becomes an issue... So, sitting over night and then maybe a few hours before the dryer starts (Assuming that, it too, would be on a timer) shouldn't be a major issue.
- smallnamespace 9y agoIn my personal experience, clothes start smelling funky and 'off' after about 3 hours wet after a wash, and the smell persists even after drying. Only solution is to rewash the entire load. Also, if you have a front loader, they are extremely prone to growing mildew in the bottom of the rubber gasket. Leaving wet clothes inside makes that much more likely.
- hinkley 9y agoWhite vinegar in the prewash will kill the mildew smell.
- stevep98 9y agoI find this depends a lot on where you are. In my house in California, I can leave the clothes in the washer a lot longer. In florida, the washer is already stinking most of the time. Even if I disinfect the washer occasionally with bleach, it still ends up stinking again. I put this down to the general humid environment.
- jacquesm 9y agoCould be the water quality as well.
- ams6110 9y agoFlorida water stinks like a swamp right out of the tap.
- yardie 9y agoDo you close the door on the washer? We have front loading washer and leave the door slightly ajar. When it's completely sealed the darkness and humidity are a breeding ground for mold.
- Retric 9y agoIf a washing machine waits up to say 30 minutes unless you click the fast button, that's still quite a bit of time shifting in aggregate. Same for home heating/cooling, you might be willing to shift an extra 1-2 degrees if it will save a few dollars a month and you don't need to pay attention. However, if your willing to spend a few extra dollars a month that directly pays for grid storage.
- thisrod 9y agoYes. This only matters for half an hour, once a year, when there isn't enough wind or sunlight to generate electricity. It's OK for a washer to just say no if you try to switch it on in that half hour, and maybe that makes more sense than buying a large battery that only gets used once a year. The timing can be forecast, and the news would warn you the night before.
- Retric 9y agoThe US grid already has a lot of storage in hydropower systems. So, I doubt a washing machine would ever need to say no. Further the once a year useage is going to be drawing a lot of batteries slightly lower at the cost of slightly shorter lifespans not a single bank that's only used once. Plus some emergency back up generators that flip on and use some minimal amount of fuel at hospitals and data centers etc. PS: One interesting outgrowth from high wind solar production is likely to be fairly accurate models for electricity costs over the next few hours. So, you may be using power sooner if the prediction is a coming price increase.
- ljf 9y agoIs it very warm where you are located? Here in the UK I can sometimes forget washing over night, or 24 hours in the machine (front loader) and not get a problem with smell, any longer and I likely will - and don't worry my wife tells me when it smells off! Never had a problem with mildew in the gasket either - maybe too cold here? Or maybe the weekly hot wash i do keeps the machine clean?
- askvictor 9y agoSame here in Melbourne (au), have forgotten clothes in front loader for 24 hours sometimes, and they've been fine. I guess it's either climate, or front loader, or appliance hygiene. Or a combination thereof
- ams6110 9y agoYou need to bleach your washing machine if clothes are getting funky after three hours.
- EGreg 9y agoThe solution is straightforward: Automate the washing, drying and folding of clothing. Automate cooking. And shopping. And so on. Like self-driving cars. Then it can be done while you sleep :)
- erikpukinskis 9y agoCooking and folding clothes aren't going to be automated for a long time. Fine motor control is a hard problem that has resisted automation for decades. GPUs and RNNs don't help. You need fingertips with lots of nerves, and probably thousands of very nuanced motor control paradigms.
- vinceguidry 9y agoI'd be happy with just laying the clothes flat so they don't wrinkle. That way I can get to it whenever. Especially if they're pressed first.
- vezycash 9y agoBuy wrinkle resistant clothes - they can be washed without needing pressing.
- vinceguidry 9y agoNo thanks, my current workflow works just fine.
- Retric 9y agoThere are demos of robots folding random laundry. They are slow and expensive, but that's the stuff that improves over time.
- tonyedgecombe 9y agoCooking has been automated for many people for a long time, all they need to do is open the microwave door.
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- rbanffy 9y agoOr one could just get a combo washer-dryer that washes and dries your clothes without any intervention. Considering this sophistication will probably not be easy to retrofit onto current devices, a combined, space/energy saving device is a given. As long as the clothes are dry and clean when I need them, I don't care at what time during the night the machine did its job. With some extra cleverness, it could even negotiate very-short-term (hours) futures on energy prices based on current tendencies and knowledge of future house demand.
- londons_explore 9y agoEnergy futures on a "by the minute" basis are great in principle, but they are hampered for consumers by the fact that current billing is flat rate. Why participate in the future market if one can simply choose to not partipate and get to consume any amount of energy you like at a constant price? Effectively you'd have built a market with an unlimited option to buy at the monthly-average price. A market like that can't work...
- rbanffy 9y agoIf you embark in the floating price, you'll probably get better rates. The downside, you having to worry about it, is offset by the machines planning their own consumption within the criteria ("I want this dry in the morning") you set.
- londons_explore 9y agoEnergy futures on a "by the minute" basis are great in principle, but they are hampered for consumers by the fact that current billing is flat rate. Why participate in the future market if one can simply choose to not partipate and get to consume any amount of energy you like at a constant price? Effectively you'd have built a market with an unlimited option to buy at the monthly-average price. A market like that can't work...